Tuesday, February 28, 2017

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captioning made possible bynew line home video [sirens and horns honking] man: neighbours heard themscreaming at each other, like, for 2 hours.nothing new. then they heard the gungo off, both barrels. crime of passion. yeah. just look at allthe passion on that wall. yeah, well,it's a done deal,

all but the paperwork. the kid see it? what? the kid. what kind of fuckingquestion is that? we are all goingto be real glad when we get ridof you, somerset. it's alwaysthese questions with you. "did the kid see it?"who gives a fuck?

he's dead.his wife killed him. anything else, it hasnothing to do with us. detective somerset? i'm detective mills. mills: lieutenant,i apologize for interrupting, but i just get in town20 minutes ago, they dump me here. look, um...mills? i thought we mightfind a bar someplace.

i'd like to get to the precinct,if it's all the same. not much time forthis transition thing. i meant to ask yousomething when we spokeon the phone before. yep. why here? i don't follow. well, all this effortto get transferred. it's the first questionthat popped into my head.

i guess the samereasons as you, the same reasonsyou had before you decidedto quit, yeah? you just met me. maybe i'm notunderstanding the question. it's very simple. you actually foughtto get reassigned here. i've just never seen itdone that way before. i thought i coulddo some good.

it would be great for meif we didn't start out kicking each otherin the balls. but you're callingthe shots, lieutenant. yes.i want you to look, and i want youto listen, ok? i wasn't guardingthe taco bell. i've workedhomicide 5 years. not here. i understand that.

over the next 7 days,detective, you'll do me the favourof remembering that. [man shouting] [dog barking] [clicking] ♪ you've got mecloser to god ♪ [sirens] [clank] [ring]

hello. yep. ok. mm-hmm. say it again. [truck engines roaring] i thoughtwe moved here to get away from tractor pulls. ha ha ha! hmm...

serpico's got to go. yeah. well... you might wantto get rid of this little crusty--this eye, serpico. did you get it? got it. good. coffee? no? nothing'sbeen touched.

everything'slike i found it. what timewas death established? like i said, i didn't touchanything, but he's got his facein a plate of spaghetti for about45 minutes now. no one botherswith vital signs? did i stutter? this guyain't breathing

unless he startedbreathing spaghetti sauce. so that's how it'sdone around here? i beg your pardon,detective, this guy's sitting in a pileof his own piss and shit. if he wasn't dead,he would have stood up by now. thank you,officer. thank you. i wonder... what exactlywas the point

of the conversationyou were about to get into? mills: don't know. how many timeshas barney fife found dead bodiesthat weren't dead? drop it. [sniffs] whew. oof! somebody phone guinness.

i think we'vegot a record here. better homes and gardens. who saidthis was murder? no one. the guy's hearthas got to be the sizeof a canned ham. if this isn'ta coronary... ha ha! well,i don't know. whoops!

how about that? we had this case once... guy dead on the ground, knife in his back. got to be murder, right? fuck. anyway, big insurancepolicy involved, yeah? the guy tookthe tip of the blade, stuck it inhis own shoulder blades.

must've screwed up a few times.there was multiples. could you pleasebe quiet? wait a minute. got a bucket here. what's in it? ugh! oh, god! fucking vomit. any blood in it?

i didn't see any.help yourself. are you thinkingit's poison? oh, wonderful. very moody. are you thinkingit's poison, somerset? you girls have gotforensics waiting outside. i don't knowif we'll all fit, though. there's room.light's the problem. hi. detective mills, wouldyou go help the officers

question the neighbours? send in forensics onyour way out, please. he's dead. thank you, doctor. you've seenmy files, right? you've seenthe things i've done. no. well, i did my timewalking the beat. i did that shitfor a long time.

and? my badge says detective,the same as yours. look, i made a decision. i had to considerthe integrity of the scene. couldn't worrywhether you thought you were getting enough timeon the playing field. hey, man... just don't jerk me off. that's all i ask.don't jerk me off.

he's been deada long time, and i can tell youit was not a poison. oh, man. how does someone letthemselves go like that? it took4 orderlies just to get himon the table. oof. but how'dthe fat fuck ever fit outhis front door? please. it's obvioushe was a shut-in.

now look at this. see how bigthis stomach is? and the strange thing isit stretches. here. look at the sizeof the cardiac orifice where the food-- i see, but thatmeans nothing to me. he's got lines of distensionacross the duodenum, and the interior wallis ripped open. this man atetill he burst?

he didn't really burst,not all the way, but he was haemorrhaginginternally. there was a haematomain the rectus. so he did dieby eating. yes and no. what aboutthese bruises up here? i haven't figuredthat out yet. gun pressedagainst his head? pressed hardenough, sure.

fuck, yeah. the marksfrom the front side flush with the muzzle. ladiesand gentlemen, we have ourselvesa homicide. somerset: killer puta bucket beneath him, kept on serving.took his time, too. coroner said this could'vegone on more than 12 hours. victim's throatwas swollen,

probablyfrom the effort, and there wasdefinitely a point when he passed out. the killer kicked him,and he burst. oof! sadisticfucker, huh? when you want somebody dead,you drive by and shoot them. you don't risk the timeit takes to do this, unless the act itselfhas meaning. come on.

somebody had a problemwith the fat boy and decided to torture him.simple as that. in the grocery bags,we found 2 receipts. that means the killerstopped in the middle and made a second tripto the supermarket. so? hey, man...it's his thing. i've been out inthe rain all day. this is beginning.

we've gotone dead guy, not 3. no motive. don't even start yourbig brain cooking on this, all right? please. i'd liketo be reassigned. what? whoa. what in the hellare you talking about? this can't bemy last duty. it's just going togo on and on.

you're retiring. 6 more days andyou're all the way gone. won't be the first timeyou've left unfinished business. those cases were taken as closeto conclusion as possible, and if i mayspeak freely... we're all friends here. this should not behis first assignment. come on! i knew it. this is not my firstassignment, dick.

it's too soon for him. i'm here. you can saythat shit to my face. it's too soon. captain, if we canjust talk in private. this isn't working.it's a personal thing. shut up, mills. look. i don't haveanyone else to put on this. this is metro.you don't get to swap. give it to me.

say what? he doesn't want it,fuck him. sorry.see you later. have a nice time.give it to me. no. i'm putting youon something else. go on, mills.just go on. i'm sorry, old buddy, but it looks like you're stuckcleaning up the fat man. all right.here we go.

quiet down. all right.calm down. calm down. quiet down! calm down. quiet down. now, here's howit's going to be-- i'll answer questionsfor 10 minutes only. if those questionsdo not come in a calm, sane,and orderly fashion,

i'm on my wayout of here. detective? can i have a momentof your time? i will not discussthe details of this ongoing investigationso don't bother asking. man: there he is. that's the guy. shh. man: it looks like we won'tbe eating dinner.

who is this kid,anyway? hotshot. what have you guysgot for me? nothing yet,boss. why don't you guysgo get a coffee, ok? newscaster: we havethis breaking story for you. we're going togo live downtown where defence attorneyeli gould was found murderedthis morning. district attorneymartin talbot

is taking questionsfrom reporters. reporter: a conflict ofinterest between your office-- talbot: that is ridiculous tothe point of being offensive. there is no conflictwhatsoever, and any claim there could beis irresponsible. reporter: is it true you're farfrom apprehending a suspect? talbot: i've come from a meetingof law enforcement officials, and they've assured me they havetheir very best men on this.

this will bethe very definition of swift justice. pardon me, george. somerset. come in. have you heardthe news? nope.haven't heard. eli gould was foundmurdered this morning. someone broke intohis law firm

and bled him to death, wrote the word "greed"on the floor. [scraping on door] greed? yeah. in blood. mills is heading upthe investigation. excuse me.excuse me. could you notdo that, please? oh, ok.

well, good for him. what in the hell are yougoing to do with yourself out there, somerset? oh, i'll work,maybe on a farm, fix my house. don't you feelthat feeling? you're not going to bea cop anymore. that's the whole idea. i don't thinkyou're leaving.

hell, you can'tleave all this. a guy's outwalking his dog, gets attacked. his watch is taken,his wallet. while he's lying there on the sidewalkhelpless, his attacker stabs himin both eyes. this happenedjust last night about 4 blocksfrom here.

yeah, i read about it. i don't understandthis place any longer. it's the wayit's always been. maybe you're right. you do this work,you were made for it, and i don't thinkyou can deny that. maybe i'm wrong. oh, uh... the coroner sentthis down for you.

found themin the fat boy's stomach mixed inwith the food. looks like plastic. set them on the desk,please. they were, uh...they were fed to him. [children squealing] oh, lord. this was foundon the wall behindthe refrigerator

at the obesitymurder scene. "long is the wayand hard that out of hellleads up to light." it's from milton. paradise lost. all right.i'm confused. it means thatthis is beginning. this was found behindthe same refrigerator, written in grease. there are 7 deadly sins,captain--

gluttony... greed... sloth, wrath,pride, lust... and envy. seven. this is noteven my desk. you can expect5 more of these. now wait a minute. i can't getinvolved in this. somerset!

he wanted it. i'm all over it. where you headed? far away from here. thanks, george.how you doing? ok. i've got a few thingsto look up. ok. sit whereyou'd like. how's everybody?

hi there,smiley. come on, george.your cards are getting cold. duty calls. [men laughing] gentlemen, gentlemen. i'll never understand. all these books... a world of knowledgeat your fingertips. what do you do?

you play pokerall night. hey, we got culture! yeah. we got culturecoming out our ass. all right! how's thisfor culture? [classical music playing] ohh... yo, smiley. you reallygoing to miss us.

i just might. fucking dante. goddamnedpoetry-rhyming faggot piece of shit! fucker! arggh! yeah? good work, officer. thank you, lord.

oh. sorry. be out of your wayin a second. you want your chair? no. you goright ahead. [telephone rings] phone. it's a packagedeal. it comeswith the office. mills.

are you ok?is something wrong? you dingleberry. i told younot to call me at work. yeah. why? why? it's my wife. sorry? she'd liketo speak to you. uh, this isdetective somerset.

well...it's niceto talk to you, too. uh, i appreciatethe offer, but... well, in that case,i'd be delighted. yes, thank youvery much. bye. hon, what-- [dial tone] well? i've been invited

to a late supperat your apartment. i accepted. my...how's that? tonight. hello, men. hi, loser. hi, idiot. this is trace.tracy, somerset. happy to meet you.i've heard a lot about you.

except, of course,your first name. it's william. hmm. it's a goodname, william. william, i'd like youto meet david. david,this is william. i'll be right back.how are the kids? good. they're in their room.come on in. oh, good dogs! [dogs barking]

mills: how are you? [barking continues] smells good. the... oh, yeah.i mean thank you. um, please,have a seat. would you likesomething to drink? uh, no. no, thanks.i'll wait. just throw thatanywhere.

excuseall this mess. we're stillunpacking. i understand you twowere high-school sweethearts. pretty hokey, huh? i knew on our first datethat this was the guy i was going to marry. really? he was the funniest guyi'd ever met. well, it's kind of rarenowadays, you know--

i mean, that levelof commitment. oh, don't worry. i won't wear itto the dinner table. i, uh... no matter how ofteni see guns, i just...i can'tget used to them. same here. [jazz playing] why aren't youmarried, william?

oh, trace.what the hell? i was close once.just didn't happen. it surprises me. it really does. well...anyone who spends a significantamount of time with me finds me disagreeable. just ask your husband. very true.very, very true.

so how longhave you lived here? too long. how do youlike it here? you know, takes timeto settle in. it'll be good. you get numbafter a while. [dog barks] there are thingsto any city...

[rumbling noiseand dogs barking] the subway. it'll go awayin a minute. it's nothing. that real-estate guy. fucking piece of...sorry, hon. shows us the placea few times. i think it's good.trace likes it. then i startwondering why

he only brings us here5 minutes at a time. we found outthe first night. the soothing, relaxing,vibrating home, huh? i'm sorry. yeah, all right,laugh it up. i don't know what you're laughing at. all right already. the guy had to get inbefore the office closed and security tightened.

gould would have beenworking late. i'm certain. he was the biggestdefence lawyer in town. infamous, really. the body was foundtuesday morning. the officewas closed monday. the guy could havegotten in on friday, laid low tillthe cleaning crew left, and had his way all daysaturday, sunday,

maybe even monday. look at this. gould was bound,his right arm free. he was handeda butcher's knife. check out the scale. a pound of flesh? "one pound of flesh,no more, no less. no cartilage, no bone,but only flesh." merchant of venice.

didn't see it. "his task done,then he would go free." that chair wassoaked with sweat. of course. the killer would havewanted gould to take his time, to sit and decidewhich cut to make first. imagine it--there'sa gun in your face. which part of your bodyis expendable?

how aboutthe love handle? cut along the sideof his own stomach. all right, let's takea fresh look at these. even though the corpseis there, look through it. edit out the initial shock. the trick is to findone item, one detail, and focus on it until it's an exhaustedpossibility. i'm going to getanother beer. beer?

wine, please. he's preaching. he's punishing. the sins were usedin medieval sermons. there were7 cardinal virtues and 7 deadly sinsused as teaching tools. like in the parson's tale,and what's-his...oh, dante. you read them. yeah. well, parts.

hey, rememberin purgatory, dante and his buddy, they're climbing upthe hill, checking out allthe sinners, yeah? yeah. the 7 terracesof purgation. right, but there,pride comes first, not gluttony. well, for now,let's consider that the bookswere the inspiration.

the sermons were aboutatonement for sin. these murders are likeforced attrition. forced what? attrition. it's whenyou regret your sins but not becauseyou love god. oh, like becausesomeone's sticking a fucking gunin your face. no fingerprints. nope.

totally unrelatedvictims. yup. and no witnessesof any kind. which i don't get because the fuckerhad to get back out. well, in any major city, minding your ownbusiness is a science. first thing they teach womenin rape prevention is never cry for help.

always yell "fire." nobody answersto "help." holler "fire,"they come running. that's fucked up. must have leftanother puzzle piece. you know what? thank you fortalking this out, but i got to sleep,walk the dogs. this is to satisfymy curiosity.

i'm still leavingat the end of the week. aw, shit.wait, wait. gould's wifewas out of town, except this meansshe saw something. what if it's a threat? i put herin a safe house. she wasn't happyabout it. [dogs barkingand subway passing] what if it isn'tsomething she has seen

but somethingshe's supposed to see but hasn't beengiven a chance? yeah, ok. what? i don't know. but that'sthe one thing. mills: sign us in. we've got to seemrs. gould. [woman talking] we want you to havea phone line, but...

mrs. gould? [sobbing] mrs. gould,i am sorry. i truly am. i don't understand. i need you to lookat each photo very carefully. look and seeif there's anything strangeor out of place,

anything at all. i don't see anything. you sure? please, i can't do thisright now! somerset:it's got to be now. there may be somethingwe haven't seen. wait. here. this painting,it's upside down.

you sure your mendidn't move this? no, no, no. those shots were takenbefore forensics. nothing. there's got to besomething. moved the screwsto rehang it. what the fuckis that? switchblade. goddamn it!

must be something. he didn't paintthe fucking thing. now he's fuckingwith us. that's whathe's doing. see this?this is us. just wait a minute. now somerset's climbingon the furniture. you're kidding me. call the print lab.

honestly,have you ever seen anything like this? i can tell you guys just by lookingat the swirl pattern, they're not the victim'sfingerprints. mills:i don't know, man. i'd sayhe's whacked enough. doesn't fit. he doesn't want usto help him stop.

who knows? freaks out theredoing evil deeds they don'twant to do. "voices made me do it.my dog made me do it. jodie fostertold me to do it." i've seen this take3 days to make a match, so maybe you want to crossyour fingers somewhere else. you meant what you saidto mrs. gould, didn't you, about catching this guy?

i wish i still thoughtthe way you do. why don't youtell me what the hellit is you thinkwe're doing? picking upthe pieces. we're collectingall the evidence, taking all the picturesand samples, writing everything down, noting the timethings happen.

that's all? that's all. putting everythinginto neat little piles and filing it awayon the off chance it will ever be neededin the courtroom. picking up diamondson a deserted island, saving them in casewe get rescued. bullshit. even the mostpromising clues

usually only leadto others. so many corpsesroll away unrevenged. don't try to tell me you didn't getthat rush tonight. i saw you. we're gettingsomewhere. wake up, glimmer twins. you've got a winner. this guy goes by the nameof victor.

his real nameis theodore allen. his prints were foundby homicide. he's got a long historyof serious mental illness. his parents gave him a strictsouthern baptist upbringing, but somewhere they fell short. victor dabbled in drugs,armed robbery, assault, spent time in prison herefor attempted rape of a minor, but his lawyer saw to itthat didn't last long. his lawyer is eli gould,the greed murder victim.

we're going to finishthis today. victor's beenout of circulation, but there's stilla residence in his name. you're not buyingall this, are you? doesn't seemlike our guy. you tell me. our killer seems tohave more purpose. you ever takea bullet? never in my 34 years,knock wood.

i've only takenmy gun out 3 times with the intentionof using it. never pulledthe trigger. not once. you? yeah, but--no,i never took a bullet, but i pulled my gun once,shot it once. it was my first one of these.secondary unit. i was shaky going in.i was a rookie.

we bust open the doorlooking for this junkie, and the fuckeropened fire. one cop got hitin the arm. christ,what was his name? spun him like a top. you know? i mean,more like slow motion. i remember... riding inthat ambulance. well,he died right there.

right there. christ, what washis fucking name? swat goesbefore dicks. they love this. police! clear! good morning, sweetheart. get up now, motherfucker. now!

get up, you sack of shit. [coughing] oh, fuck me. dicks! you want to cometake a look at this! jesus. victor? that's just victor. somerset:call an ambulance.

a hearse would bemore like it. get your peopleout of here. go! no one touchesanything! some kind of freakingwax sculpture or something. "sloth." goddamn. somerset: this picturewas dated 3 days ago. this must bethe first one. look.

it's dated exactlyone year ago today. i got a hair sample,a stool sample, piss. i got fingernails. he's laughing at us. you got whatyou deserved. [coughs] he's alive! he's alive! that cocksucker's alive! calm down! emergencyon that ambulance!

[siren] he's playing games. ah, no shit. we have to divorceourselves from emotion. we have to remainfocused on the details. man, i feed offmy emotions. are you listening? yes, i can hear you. excuse me.

closed crime scene.get the fuck out. i got a right. get out of here,piece of shit! get out of here! i gotyour picture, man. detective mills.m-i-l-l-s! fuck off! i'm surprisedyou can spell. fuck you! how do they get hereso fucking quick?

they pay policefor the information and pay well. hey, man, i'm sorry. i... well, he pissed me off. it's impressiveto see a man feeding offhis emotions. a year of immobilityseems about right judging bythe deterioration

of the musclesin the spine. blood tests show manydrugs in his system, even an antibiotic which must havebeen administered to keep bedsoresfrom infecting. has he triedto speak or communicatein any way? even if his brainwere not mush, which it is,

he chewed off hisown tongue long ago. uh, doctor. is thereabsolutely no chance that he might survive? detective, he'd dieof shock right now if you shineda flashlight in his eyes. he's experienced aboutas much pain and suffering as anyone i've encountered,give or take, and he still has hellto look forward to.

good night. [telephone ringing] radio: we bring youthe charlie parker quintet, featuring charles thompson onpiano, herb pomeroy's trumpet, jimmy woode, bass,kenny clarke, drums, and the alto saxophoneof charlie parker. hello, william? it's tracy. tracy?

is everythingall right? yeah. yes,everything's fine. where's david? he's in the other room.he's in the shower. i'm sorryto call you like this. oh, it's all right. what can i dofor you, tracy? um, i needsomeone to talk to. do you think youcould meet me...

somewhere maybetomorrow morning? i feel stupid calling,but, uh... you're the only personthat i know here. there's no one else. if you can,just give me a call, ok? i have to go now. it can bea hard place. i don't know whyi asked you to come. why don't you talkto him about it?

tell himhow you feel. i can't...you know,i can't be a burden, especially now. i'll get used to things. you know, i thinki just wanted to talk to someone who's livedhere for a long time. i mean, upstate, you know, it's a completelydifferent...environment. really.

did david tell youthat i teach fifth grade? well, i did. he mentioned it. i'm going around, you know,looking at schools, but the conditions here... are horrible. what aboutprivate schools? why don't you tell me

what's reallybothering you, tracy? david and i aregoing to have a baby. oh, tracy... i don't think i'm-- i'm the one totalk to about this. i hate this city. i hada relationship once. it was very muchlike a marriage. we got pregnant.

this wasa long time ago. i remember gettingup one morning and going to work, just another daylike any other except it wasthe first day after i knewabout the pregnancy. and i felt this fear for the first timeever. i remember thinking,

how can i bring a childinto a world like this? how can a person grow up with all thisaround them? i told her i didn'twant to have it... and overthe next few weeks, i wore her down. i want to have children. i can tell younow... i'm--i know--

i mean-- i'm positive i madethe right decision, but there's nota day that passes that i don't wish that i'd madea different choice. if you don't keep... the baby-- i mean, if that'syour decision,

don't ever tell himyou were pregnant. but if you chooseto have this baby, you spoil that kidevery chance you get. [sighs] that's aboutall the advice i can give you,tracy. [beeping] i got to go. william.

somerset: victor'slandlord said there was cash inthe office mailbox the firstof every month. "i never hearda single complaint "from the tenantin apartment 306, "and nobody evercomplained about him. he was the best tenanti've ever had." yeah, a landlord'sdream-- a paralysed tenantwith no tongue.

who paysthe rent on time. i'm sick ofall this waiting. this is the job. why aren'twe out there? why do wesit here rotting, waiting tillthe lunatic does it again? that's dismissiveto call him a lunatic. don't make that mistake. come on. he's insane.look.

right now, he's probablydancing around in his grandma's panties, yeah, rubbing himselfin peanut butter. ooh, how's that? i don't think so. yeah, his luckwill run out. he's notdepending on luck. we walked intothat apartment exactly one year

after he tied victorto the bed. he wanted us to. you don't know thatfor sure. oh, yes, we do. this note he left, his first wordsto us. "long is the way,and hard, fuck him. so what? he's right so far.

imagine the will it takes to keep a man boundfor a full year, to sever his hand and use itto plant fingerprints, to insert tubesinto his genitals. this guy's methodical, exacting, and worstof all, patient. he's a nut-bag. just because the fucker'sgot a library card, doesn't make him yoda.

how much money you got? i got, like,50--50 bucks. i propose a field trip.come on. we'll make a list. at the top we'll put purgatory, canterbury tales, anything relating tothe 7 deadly sins. ask yourself,what would he study to do the thingshe's done? what arehis interests now?

jack the ripper,for instance. where are we going? the library. coupons! coupons! free coupons.discount coupons! they must have hadabout 50 health violations during their lastinspection. could you at leastsit across from me? i don't want peoplethinking we're dating.

give me your money. i'm giving you this, but i ought to knowwhat we're doing. hey, somerset.how are you? i didn't expecta mã©nage a trois. it's not a problem.sit down. only for youdo i do this. it's a big risk. we're justfair and square.

it's a deal. all right. about an hour. yeah, help yourself. well, that wasmoney well spent. by telling you this,i'm trusting you more thanmost people. good, because i'mabout ready to punch you. it's probablynothing,

but it's no skinoff our teeth. the guyin the pizza parlour is a friendfrom the bureau. who? stinky man? for years, the fbihas been hooked into the library system,keeping records. mm-hmm.assessing fines. no, monitoringreading habits. look.

certain booksare flagged-- books on, say,nuclear weapons or mein kampf. anyone who checks outa flagged book has his library recordsfed into fbi computers. wait. how isthis legal? legal, illegal--these terms don't apply. [scoffs] you can't use theinformation directly.

it's justa useful guide. it might soundsilly, but you can't geta library card without an idand a phone bill. so they run a list. precisely. if you want to knowwho's reading purgatory and paradise lost and helter skelter,

the fbi's computerswill tell us. could give us a name. it could get a college kid writing a term paperon 20th-century crime. at least you'reout of the office. get a haircut. how do youknow all this? i don't.neither do you. exactly.

the divine comedy, the history of catholicism. there's a book called murderers and madmen. modern homicide investigation, in cold blood, of human bondage. bondage? not whatyou're thinking. the marquis de sharday. it'sthe marquis de sade.

whatever. the writings ofsaint thomas aqua-something. saintthomas aquinas. he wrote aboutthe 7 deadly sins. is that it? let's try it. jonathan doe? we're sureabout that name? you saw the list.john doe. want to go back?

let's takea look at him. talk to him. this is crazy. ah, we'll justtalk to him. excuse me, sir. are you, by any chance,a serial killer? you do the talking. put that silvertongue to work. have you been talkingto my wife?

this is retarded. charlie's fucking angels. name off a computer. [child screaming] you're hit. he's going down!he's going down! fifth floor! child: mommy! mommy!

[door opens] police. is therea back exit? lock your door. [door shuts] man:what's going on? get out ofthe fucking hall, please. [woman screams] aah! get down!

get the fuck down! shit. [people shouting] [smashes window] [alarm ringing] man: hey,shut the fuck up! [alarm stops] [laboured breathing] [horns blaring]

taxi! [screaming] get out ofthe fucking way! move! [moaning] mills! no! mills? are you ok? i'm all right.

where are you going? i'm going in. wait, wait, wait. wait! what are youtalking about? he fuckin' shot at us. we can't go in.we need a warrant. we gotprobable cause. think. how didwe get here?

i can't tell anyone. i can't tellabout the bureau. we have no reasonto be here. listen to me. get the fuck off me! i'm sorry, but justpay attention. if we leavea hole like this, we can't prosecute.the guy will walk. is thatwhat you want?

by the timewe get the warrant-- nah, fuck that! no! we need a reasonto knock on this door! think about it! ok? ok, you're right. i'm all fucked up. you're right.you're right. well.

no pointin arguing anymore... unless you can fix that. you stupid son of a-- how much moneywe got left? so, yeah, like,i noticed this guy going out a lot whenthe murders was happening, and so i, um... you calleddetective somerset, right? right, so i calledthe detective

because he lookedcreepy and shit. and one of the murdershappened right over there. ok, ok, ok. i told youthe rest. you haveto sign it. you did good. i did what you said. here. you getsomething to eat. somerset: everybodystay outside.

victor. we had him. it was the fuckingphotographer on the fucking stairs. we had him,and we let him go. you're sure this is him? yeah. good, good. uh, yeah. good. we've gotnothing to go on.

no address books.just this receipt. then keep looking. this wasunder the bed-- his onlysource of funds. we got his money. fucking-a, good work. one more thingyou won't believe. we haven't founda fingerprint, not one. i don't believe you.keep looking.

we could usesome more men. i'm doingthe best i can. what's all this? there are 2,000 notebookson these shelves. each containsabout 250 pages. forget it. anythingabout the killings? "what sick, ridiculous,puppets we are. "what a gross littlestage we dance on. "what fun we havedancing, fucking,

"not a carein the world, "not knowingthat we are nothing. we are notwhat was intended." no, wait.there's a lot more. "on the subway today, "a man starteda conversation with me. "he made small talk, "a lonely man talkingabout the weather. "i tried to be pleasantand accommodating,

"but my head began tohurt from his banality. "i almost didn't noticeit had happened, "but i suddenly threw upall over him. "he was not pleased, and i couldn'tstop laughing." no dates. placed on the shelvesin no discernible order. just his mindpoured out on paper. looks like a life's work.

even with 50 men,it would take 2 months. i know, i know,i know, i know. where's that phone? phone?phone? phone? people, quiet! i admire you. i don't knowhow you found me, but imagine my surprise. i respectyou law enforcement agents

more every day. well, i appreciatethat...john. i tell you-- no, you listen. i'll be readjustingmy schedule in light oftoday's little...setback. i just had to call andexpress my admiration. i'm sorry i had to hurtone of you, but i didn't havea choice, did i?

will you acceptmy apology? i would say more,but i'd ruin the surprise. [hangs up] tape: i'll bereadjusting my schedule all right,everybody back to work. you were right.he's preaching. yeah. these murdersare his sermons to us. look, we know him, we know him,we know him.

who's the blonde? looks like a pro. maybe. she caughtjohn doe's eye. man: he collected itlast night. mills: last night?this man? yeah. john doe.easy name. he had a limp. what was the jobyou did for him? i've got a picture.one sweet piece.

i thought he was one of themperformance artists, the sort of guythat pisses in a cap on-stageand then drinks it. performance art. [hard rock playing] i think i undercharged him,actually. you made thisfor him? i've made weirder shitthan that. so what?

[siren blaringand pager beeping] they foundthe blonde. the picture. the picture! fucking pigs! [dance music playing] get the fuckout of the booth, pal! i've been in this cagethe whole time, ok? come on. this way!

[loud music playing] can you do somethingabout this music? we're working on it.we're looking for the guy. you from homicide?you better see this. officer:stay still, all right? god, get this thingoff of me! get him outof here now. get him outof here now! mills: come on. i wantto hear it again.

tell me again. you heardnothing strange? you saw nothingstrange? he askedif i was married, and i could seehe had a gun. where was the girl? the what? what? the girl. the prostitute.where was she? someone comes toyour establishment,

they wantto go downstairs to get a littleooh-la-la, whatever, they got to cometo you, yeah? you didn't see anyonewith a package, a knapsack, somethingunder their arm? hey, everybodythat comes in there has got a packageunder their arms. some guys are carryingsuitcases full of stuff. she was just...

she was justsitting on the bed. who tied her down,you or him? do you like what youdo for a living? no, i don't. but that's life,isn't it? he...he...he had a gun, and...and hemade it happen. [gasps for breath] he made me do it.

he...he putthat thing on me. then he made mewear it. then he...told meto fuck her. and i did.i fucked her! oh, god. oh, god. he hada gun in my mouth. the fucking gunwas in my throat! fuck! oh, god! god!

god, help me.please. please help me! this isn't going tohave a happy ending. hey, man. we catch him,i'll be happy enough. if we catch john doe and he turns outto be satan himself, that might live upto our expectations, but he's notthe devil. he's just a man.

you know, you bitchand you complain and tell methese things and... if you think you're preparing mefor hard times, thank you, but... but you got to bea hero. you wantto be a champion. people don't wanta champion. they want to eatcheeseburgers,

play lotto, andwatch television. how did you get like this?i want to know. well... it wasn't one thing,i can tell you that. go on. i just don't thinki can continue to live in a placethat embraces and nurtures apathyas if it was a virtue. you're no different,no better.

i didn't say i was.i'm not. hell, i sympathize. i sympathizecompletely. apathyis a solution. i mean,it's easier to lose yourselfin drugs than it isto cope with life. easier to steal whatyou want than earn it. it's easier to beata child than raise it.

hell, love costs,takes effort, work. we are talking about peoplewho are mentally ill, people whoare fucking crazies. no, we're not. yes, today. we're talking abouteveryday life here. you can't affordto be this naive. fuck off. gee.

you should listento yourself. you say,"the problem with people "is that they don't care, so i don't careabout people." that makes no sense. you care? damn right. and you're going tomake a difference. whatever. the point is,

is that i don'tthink you're quitting because you believethese things you say. i think you wantto believe them because you'requitting. you want meto agree with you and say,"yeah, you're right. "it's all fucked up.it's a fucking mess. we should all go livein a fucking log cabin." but i won't.

i won't say that. i don't agreewith you. i do not. i can't. i'm going to go home. thank you, though. i love you, honey,so much. so much. i know.

[metronome clicking] 911. what'syour emergency? could yourepeat that? man:i've gone and done it again. what have you got? uh, sleepingpills... glued to one hand. telephone gluedto the other. you see what he did?

he sliced her up... then hebandaged her. call for help,and you'll live but you'll bedisfigured, or you canput yourself out ofyour own misery. cut off her nose. to spite her face. he did itvery recently.

somerset: listen,i've decided to stay on till this is done. one of two thingswill happen. either we'll getjohn doe, or he'll finishhis series of 7 and this case willgo on for years. you don't have todo me any favours. thank you, but-- keep me as your partnera few more days.

you'll be doing mea favour. mills: you knew i'd say yes.hey, we're here. woman: your wife called. get yourselfan answering machine. detective. after this,i'm gone. no big surprise. detective! you're lookingfor me.

hey! don't fucking move!on the floor! keep away from him! i know you. now! get down! get down!on your stomach! you pieceof shit! now! all the way! all the way, fucker!

down!faster! faster! faster, fucker!now! nose on the ground! jesus christ. what the fuckis this? i'd like to speakto my lawyer, please. captain: he cuts the skinoff his fingers. that's why we couldn'tfind one usable print. he's been doing itfor quite some time.

mills: what about the traceon his bank accounts? so far everything'sa dead end. no credit history,no employment records. his bank account'sonly 5 years old. it was startedwith cash. we're even trying totrace his furniture. the only thing we knowabout that guy right now is he's independentlywealthy, well-educated, and totally insane.

he's john doeby choice. when do wequestion him? you don't.he's going to court now. there's no way he wouldjust turn himself in. it doesn't makeany sense. it's not supposedto make sense. he's notfinished. no, he's justpissing in our faces. and we're taking itlike idiots.

you know whati'm talking about. for the firsttime ever, you and i arein total agreement. he wouldn't just stop. so what the fuck,man? he's 2 murders away from completinghis masterpiece. we'll waitfor his plea. my client says thereare 2 more bodies.

2 more victimshidden away. he will take detectivesmills and somerset to these bodies, but only detectivesmills and somerset, only at 6.00 today. why us? he says he admires you. it's part of the game. my client claims

that if the detectivesdo not accept, these bodieswill never be found. frankly, counsel,i'm inclined to let them rot. hey, we've got him downstairs, locked up,done deal. he'll get roomand board, cable tv. hell, my wife doesn'teven have cable. hey, something stinks. and this one here...

yeah, you,in your $3,000 suit and that smug smile,dealing for that shit-- i am required by lawto serve my clients. ah, jesus christ. and theirbest interests. we don't make deals here. my client says ifyou do not accept, he will pleadinsanity. let him try it.i'd like to see him try.

with the natureof these crimes, i could get him offwith such a plea. i'm not lettingthis conviction slide. he says thatif you do accept, under his specificconditions, he will signa full confession, plead guiltyright now. it's your case.make a decision. full confession.i'm in.

it has to bethe both of you. if he wereto claim insanity, this conversationis admissible, the fact that he'sblackmailing us with his plea. my client reminds you,2 more are dead. the press would havea field day if the policedidn't seem too concernedabout finding them.

if there are 2 more dead. the lab report came. they did a quickieon doe's clothing. they found blood fromdoe slicing his fingers, blood from the womanwhose face he cut off, and bloodfrom a third party, as yet unidentified. you'd be escortingan unarmed man. let's finish it.

somerset: if john doe's headopens and a ufo flies out, i want youto have expected it. i will. hey, man, if i wasto accidentally shave off a nipple, would it be coveredby workman's comp? i suppose so. if you wereman enough to actuallyfile a claim,

i'd buy you oneout of my own pocket. i keep coming home late, my wife's going tothink something's up. you know... [microphone feedback] let's go! spin it around! there he is. late model black sedanat 10 o'clock.

who are you, john? who are you really? what do you mean? at this stage,what harm can it do to tell usabout yourself? doesn't matter. who i ammeans absolutely nothing. you need to stayon your left up here. so where are weheading? you'll see.

we're not just going to 2 more dead bodies,are we, john? that wouldn't beshocking enough. we've got newspapersto think about, yeah? wanting people to listen, you can't just tap themon the shoulder anymore. you have to hit themwith a sledge hammer. then you'll notice you've gottheir strict attention. but the question is,what makes you so special

that peopleshould listen? i'm not special. i've never beenexceptional. this is, though--what i'm doing. my work. your work, john? yes. i don't see anythingspecial about it, john. that's not true.

no, it is true,and the funny thing is, all this work,2 months from now, no one's going to givea shit or remember. you can't seethe whole complete act yet, but when this is done, when it's finished, it's going to be... people will barelybe able to comprehend, but they won't be ableto deny.

could the freakbe any more vague? as far asmaster plans go-- i can't wait for you to see.it's going to be something. i'm going to beright next to you, so when this big thinghappens, let me know. i wouldn't wantto miss it. oh, don't worry.you won't. you won'tmiss a thing. [police radio]

helicopter: roger. going south.keep 2 miles separation. roger. what's so exciting? it's not too far now. i've been trying to figuresomething in my head. maybe you canhelp me out, yeah? when a person is insane,as you clearly are, do you knowthat you're insane? maybe you're reading guns & ammo,

masturbatingin your own faeces, do you stop and go, "wow, it is amazinghow fucking crazy i really am"? do you guys do that? it's more comfortablefor you to label me insane. it's very comfortable. it's not something i would expect youto accept, but i did not choose.

i was chosen. i don't doubt thatyou believe that, john, but seems to me you're overlookinga glaring contradiction. meaning what? glad you asked. if you were chosen-- that is,by a higher power-- and if your handwas forced,

seems strange to me you would get suchenjoyment out of it. you enjoyed torturingthose people. just doesn't seem in keeping withmartyrdom, does it? john? i doubti enjoyed it any more than detective mills wouldenjoy time alone with me in a room without windows.

isn't that true? how happy would it make youto hurt me with impunity? that hurts my feelings. i would never-- you wouldn't only becausethere's consequences. it's in those eyesof yours, though. nothing wrong with a mantaking pleasure in his work. i won't denymy own personal desire to turn each sinagainst the sinner.

wait a minute.i thought all you did was killinnocent people. innocent? is thatsupposed to be funny? an obese man,a disgusting man who couldbarely stand up, who you'd point outto friends so they could join youin mocking him. if you saw himwhile you were eating, you wouldn't be ableto finish your meal.

after him,i picked the lawyer, and you both must havesecretly been thanking me. this man dedicated his lifeto making money by lying with every breaththat he could muster to keeping murderersand rapists on the streets! murderers. murderers, john,like yourself. a womanso ugly inside that she couldn'tbear living

if she couldn't be beautifulon the outside. a drug dealer-- a drug-dealing pederast,actually. and let's not forgetthe disease-spreading whore. only in a world this shitty could you even try to saythese were innocent people and keep a straight face. but that's the point. we see a deadly sinon every street corner,

in every home, and we tolerate it. we tolerate itbecause it's common, it's...it's trivial. we tolerate itmorning, noon, and night. well, not anymore. i'm setting the example, and what i've doneis going to be puzzled over and studied...

and followed... forever. delusions of grandeur. you should bethanking me. why is that, john? because you're going to beremembered after this. realize, detective, the only reasonthat i'm here right now is that i wanted to be.

no. we would havegot you eventually. oh, really?so, what were you doing? biding your time,toying with me? allowing5 innocent people to die until you felt likespringing your trap? what wasthe indisputable evidence you were going to useon me right before i walked up to you andput my hands in the air? john, calm down.

i seem to remember us knocking on your door. oh, that's right. and i seem to rememberbreaking your face. you're only alivebecause i didn't kill you. ok. sit back. i spared you. remember that every timeyou look in the mirror at that face of yoursfor the rest of your life,

or for the rest of what lifei've allowed you to have. sit back, you fucking freak! shut your fucking mouth! you're no messiah. you're a movie of the week. you're a fuckingt-shirt, at best. don't ask me to pitythose people. i don't mourn them any more than the thousands that diedat sodom and gomorrah.

is that to saywhat you were doing was god's good work? the lord worksin mysterious ways. do you seethose high-tension towers? that's where we're headed. helicopter: i see wherehe's talking about. follow the access road. your signal'sbreaking up. un-fucking-avoidable,sir.

we're in powerline city.deal with it. there sure as shitis no ambush out here. no fucking nothing out here. can't land anywherenear those wires. they're coming up behind usin about 2 minutes. go up, way up. 30 seconds, back east.on my mark. 30 seconds. i'm getting him out. we've got youin sight.

mills: get out... slowly. stop. stay. what do you got? dead dog. i didn't do that. what time is it? i'd like to know.

7.01. it's close. well, let's gotake a look. it's this way. bird two,close your distance. they're movingaway from the car. we got them,we got them. closing in. negative, negative.

down. down, down. watch him. there he goes. it's good we havesome time to talk. stay on the guyin red. do not take the cross hairsoff the guy in red! there's a vancoming down the road from the north.

be readyfor anything now. wait for my signal.wait for me. [gunshot] get out of the van! out! jesus christ, man.don't shoot me! step away! turn around.put your hands on your head! what the hellis going on?

what are youdoing here? i'm just deliveringa package, man. i got this packagefor this guy david, detectivedavid mills. get it... he's openingthe back of the van. we've got himin sight. this guy paid me500 bucks to bring itout here, man.

he said he wanted ithere at exactly 7.00. put it down. we got a box. we got a box! call the bomb squad.we got a box. face the van. hands up. turn around. ok. go.

off you go. go! i'm sending the driverout on foot. he's headed northalong the road. have him picked up. i don't know.i don't know. i'm going to open it. when i said i admired you, i meant what i said. there's blood.

you've made quite a lifefor yourself, detective. you should be very proud. shut the fuck up,you piece of shit. uh! california,stay away from here. stay away from here.don't come in here. whatever you hear,stay away. john doe hasthe upper hand. here he comes.

throw your gun down! i wish i could havelived like you did. what the fuckyou talking about? do you hear me,detective? i'm trying to tell youhow much i admire you and your pretty wife. tracy. what youfuckin' say? it's disturbing how easilya member of the press

can purchase informationfrom the men in your precinct. what the fuck? throw your gundown! i visited your homethis morning after you'd left. i tried to play husband. i tried to tastethe life of a simple man. throw it away! it didn't work out...

so i took a souvenir-- her pretty head. what the fuck'she talking about? what's going onover there? put the gun--put the gun down. what was in the box? because i envyyour normal life. put the gundown. it seems that envyis my sin.

oh, what'sin the box? what's in the fucking box? he just told you. you lie! you'rea fucking liar! that's what he wants. he wants youto shoot him. no! no! you tell methat it's not true.

become vengeance,david. she's all right.tell me. become...wrath. tell me! if you murdera suspect, david... she begged for her life,detective. she begged for her lifeand for the baby... shut up! he didn't know.

give me the gun, david. david... if you kill him... he will win. oh! oh, fuck. he shot him! set it down somewhere. come on. set us down. holy christ,somebody call somebody.

call somebody. well, we'lltake care of him. whatever he needs. where are yougoing to be? around. i'll be around. somerset:ernest hemingway once wrote, "the world is a fine place and worth fighting for."

i agreewith the second part. david bowie: ♪ ohh ♪ ♪ there's alwaysthe diamond friendly ♪ ♪ sittingin the laugh hotel ♪ ♪ the heart'sfilthy lesson ♪ ♪ with her hundred milesto hell ♪ ♪ oh, ramona ♪ ♪ if there was onlysomething between us ♪ ♪ other than our clothes ♪

♪ something in our skies ♪ ♪ something in our blood ♪ paddy? who's been wearingmiranda's clothes? ♪ it's the heart'sfilthy lesson ♪ ♪ heart's filthy lesson ♪ ♪ falls upon deaf ears ♪ ♪ heart'sfilthy lesson ♪ ♪ falls upon dead years ♪

♪ if only there wassome kind of future ♪ ♪ and these cerulean skies ♪ ♪ paddy ♪ ♪ oh ♪ ♪ paddy,will you carry me? ♪ ♪ i think i've lost my way ♪ ♪ i'm already5 years older ♪ ♪ i'm already in my grave ♪ ♪ i'm already ♪

♪ will you carry me? ♪ ♪ oh, paddy ♪ paddy... what a fantasticdeath abyss. tell the others. captioned by the nationalcaptioning institute--www.ncicap.org--

Saturday, February 25, 2017

puppets jaipur

welcome to tfp, the theatrefolk podcast. iam lindsay price, resident playwright for theatrefolk. hello, i hope you're well. thanksfor listening. today, we have an interview i recorded withteacher annie loffredo last month. i connected with annie after getting some gorgeous andso theatrical pictures from her production of my play, power play. so, i got in touchand we're going to talk about her vision for the play, her advice for creating a specificproduction vision, and then executing that vision. awesome stuff, let's get to it. lindsay: hello everybody! i am so thrilledto be talking to teacher annie loffredo today. hello!

annie: hi! lindsay: awesome. and so, the first thingi want you to do is set up. so, where are you in the world? annie: okay. i am in miami, florida. lindsay: miami, florida. is it nice in miami,florida, right now? annie: today, i actually posted it on my facebookand instagram that it felt like a summer day with 86 degrees but it felt like it was 93. lindsay: oh. annie: so, i was outside and it feels likethe summer here. i can't even believe it's

december. lindsay: aww. i can because it's snowing likea thing that snows a lot up here. annie: yes, i saw your instagram post todaywith your running shoes with snow on and i'm like, "wow! how does she run in that weather?" lindsay: we're canadians. we're built forit. annie: i know, i know. lindsay: what are you going to do? and, you're a drama teacher, yes? annie: yes, i am.

lindsay: how long have you been a teacher? annie: i have been a teacher in dade countypublic school for four years but i've been teaching drama probably since i was fifteenbecause my mother was also a drama teacher so she was at the middle school level, sowhen i was in high school, she would be like, "oh, come teach my kids, come teach my kids,"and i just did it, like, on the side from that point on and eventually i just fell intobeing a drama teacher in the school system. lindsay: what did you think about teachingdrama when you were yourself a teenager? annie: i never wanted... i mean, i alwaysloved drama. so, when i say i never wanted to be a teacher, it's just that i never wantedto deal with all the things that teachers

have to deal with. but i always loved theidea of teaching drama. and now, i think it's the best career i could ever have gone intobecause, even though there is all of that paperwork and all the things that teachershave to do, i find it to be an absolute blessing that i get paid to be an artist because thereare so many artists out there that are starving and being able to make a living because theywant to do what they're passionate about, and i make a decent living and all i do iscreate art, and i'm very grateful for that. lindsay: i think that's really awesome thatyou think of teaching as being an artist. annie: well, it is. i mean, every time i goto put on a show, i get to do what so many artists always want to do -- get paid to puton a show. and, not only that, i get to inspire

students to do the same thing because i knowwhen i was in high school, the only thing that kept me going to the school was drama,and to give that to kids every day, i just feel grateful that i have that option to dothat, that i am able to do that because it meant so much to me when i was a kid. lindsay: so, when was that moment when theswitch sort of flicked for you when you went from "i'm never going to teach" to "okay,here, i'm going to dive in"? annie: when i moved... i went to school innew jersey, i grew up down here in miami, and i moved up to new jersey with an ex ofmine and i was reading the paper one day up there -- this is so superficial what i'm aboutto say to you -- but i read that teachers

in new jersey made $75,000 to $125,000 a yearafter they've been teaching for twenty years and i'm like, "wow!" that made me want tobe a teacher so that's how i fell into teaching. that's really how i fell into teaching. allthe women in my family are teachers and that's what made me be a teacher then i moved backdown to miami and teachers in miami don't make that much. lindsay: no. so, nothing about your mom inspiringyou or anything. it was like, "oh, i would like to make some money." annie: yeah. lindsay: why not?

annie: but now that i'm here and i'm doingit, i'm completely satisfied with it. like, these past three weeks have been a completehell for me because not only do i do thespians but i do junior thespians because i'm at aschool that's six through twelve. so, it's been ies for the junior thespian. well, first,it started with one-acts for the thespians, then ies for the junior thespians, and thefirst weekend of one-acts for the thespians, second week of, i'm sorry, first week of iesfor the thespians and second week of ies for the thespians, and we just finished yesterdaywith one-acts for the junior thespians. so, it's been that every single weekend so i'vebeen working six days, probably in-between fifteen to twenty-hour days. and, you know,i was just thinking today, i'm like, "oh,

i haven't seen my friends and i'm trying togive them this excuse that i'm working so hard, please excuse me," but at the same timethey don't understand that because they don't do that, and i don't need to be making excusesfor what i do because i love it and it's my choice to do this and i'm passionate aboutit. so, i love my job. lindsay: i think that's one of the biggestmisconceptions about drama teachers. it's like, "oh, they only teach drama," and it'slike, "do you know how many hours?" it's the hours that drama teachers put in. lindsay: it's just amazing. okay. so, you've just spent all this timedoing ies. so, what would you say is the -- and,

for those who don't know, ies are individualevents, they're competitions in monologue and duets and singing. so, do you coach them,too? annie: yeah, i'm very hands-on because i havea very small school and i'm building my drama program from the bottom up. so, unfortunately,i don't have the kids yet that are so independent. like, i know when i was in high school, mydrama teacher had to do nothing -- i picked my own pieces, i cut my own pieces, i directedmy own pieces, i directed other students' pieces -- i was very independent and maybethat's why i am a drama teacher. but, my kids, they're very dependent on me and that mightbe my own fault partially too. so, yes, i literally, after school, i am sitting therewith them from 2:45 when we get out until

6:00, 7:00, and 8:00 at night, helping themout with their pieces. lindsay: so, what do you find is the mostcommon coaching thing you have to say to your students? what's the most common thing thatcomes up when they're preparing? annie: "memorize your line." yeah, well, one of my students -- i thinkthis is a great example -- i have this one student who's a brilliant actor. he's really...he just has great timing, he has a great voice, he has a great physique and presence on stage,and he's doing this one monologue from freak, john leguizamo, and he was sitting there doingit. i'm like, "you don't know your lines because every other word out of your mouth is 'and'and 'um,'" and then i sat there literally

with him for an hour and a half going throughthe script with him, and every time he would mess up, i'm like, "no, that's not the line."and we got it on point and it really helped. the timing, like, it's so important to knowexactly what the playwright writes. lindsay: i tend to think so! annie: i would hope you would feel that way.i think, you know, the one thing... i think the best way to describe this is, when i wasyounger, when i was a high schooler, i would always listen to music and i'd be like, "oh,i want to sing that, i want to sing that," but we had to lower it to fit my voice, andjust a few years -- i think it was les mis when it came out in the theatre last year-- and they had, who was it? hugh jackman

playing... lindsay: jean valjean. annie: yes! and the song did nothing. he sang,oh, what song was it? bring him home. he sang that and it absolutely nothing for me, andi realized, when somebody writes something, there's emotional reason that they're writingit, and there's an emotional reason why he's hitting those high notes, and there's an emotionalreason a playwright writes the exact words that they are writing, and you have to honorthat and you have to find the truth within the words or the notes that are being written.and if you think that you can improv with them then you're not getting across that message.

so, i was sitting there with him, we workedon it, and, you know, he did extremely well in competition. he got straight superiors,almost all fives down the lines and that's the best you can get. and it really made thatmuch of a difference just knowing the lines because, when you have these talented kids,they're going to get the emotions across, they're going to find a connection physicallyand emotionally, but if they don't know the exact words, that takes away so much -- itreally does. lindsay: well, that's an awesome little seguebecause the one thing that i really wanted to talk to you about is that you recentlydid a production of my play, power play, which is a dramatic piece when it's all about highschool violence and the whole notion of violence

as a thing of power and, also, the stereotypeof those who commit violence in high school. and you had a very specific and a very vision-orientatedtake which i love. so, can you just tell me why you decided to go in this specific directionwith this piece? let's start with that. annie: well, the one thing that, first off,i read power play and then the whole way it was written, it had so much possibilitiesin my mind. i've always been a huge fan of, like, movies like that were created... myfavorite director in the entire world is julie taymor and she's a very visual director andthere's so much possibility, like, the way she did titus -- i don't know if you eversaw that film. lindsay: no, but i've seen the visuals. like,the visuals, the pictures that they always

show from that movie are just incredibly striking. annie: yes, and i saw those possibilitiesin power play, and that's the first thing that drew me to it, and i don't like thingsthat kind of beat you over the head with a message that kind of play with ideas and takeyou out of and bring you into it, and i saw that in power play where you had these seriousdramatic themes but then it took you completely out of it with all of this stuff, with thealmost cartoon-y stuff in it, you know? and i love that about it and i saw endless possibilitieswith it, but the one thing that i loved about that play -- at least the way i took it -- isit wasn't necessarily about power, it more about how do you deal when you realize howpowerless you are in situations, and that

was my whole take throughout the entire play.in the beginning of the play, what i did is i had a student come out dancing and he waslike power and the whole concept of the play was the actors within that show were completelypowerless -- they were puppets. lindsay: yeah, they sort of, particularlyat the beginning, the girls, they sort of came out like marionettes. annie: right, right, and that's the entireconcept we went through with the play. like, when somebody was going into the monologues,the rest of the actors were just hanging there like they puppets not being used. and then,again, at the end of the show, they went back to that to show that, even when you get outof high school, you're still pretty powerless

-- we're still all in this fight to achievepower, to get some sense that we have power over our lives and situation. so, that's theway i approached that play. lindsay: so, the one thing i want to hit onis how you took a concept for the show, you read the show, you had your own impressionof it, again, not changing anything but just going, "this is how i'm interpreting the play,"and that you came up with a visual -- a visual vision -- a vision for the play and that everythingthat happened with the actors and with the action all fed back into this vision. andthe thing that i find frustrating sometimes, particularly at the high school level, sometimesit can just be lines and blocking, lines and blocking, lines and blocking, and that they'renot taking it to that artistic level, and

i think that's so important, yeah? annie: yeah, oh, yeah. i mean, well, why dosomething if you're not going to try to evolve it? try to get something new out of it. that'sthe one thing i believe art is. i don't believe in original ideas. i just believe in combiningdifferent ideas and finding something new and i don't want to do anything and i thinkmost successful directors -- whether it's a high school or trying to direct their ownscene, or a college student, or a high school director, or even, you know, when you go higherup, any artist, you know -- if you're just going to throw out something that's alreadybeen done, you're not going to be successful in what you're doing. it's about finding differentinspirations and combining them and making

something new of it. so, i don't know. lindsay: yeah. so, you combine this vision,did you do anything like storyboard it or do pinterest or...? ah, my words are failingme! did it stay in your head? how did you make it tangible for yourself? or did you? annie: yeah. well, my biggest thing that ifind that helps me directing is listening to music. music was so important throughoutthis show. like, it started with music and what i would do, literally, is every day drivinghome, i would listen to music and, if i found a song that struck me, i would listen to itover and over again and play it out in my head. i had one of my mom's former students,he is great and there's some vocal sections

that i just wanted to bring out in this show.like, you know, when they're overlapping each other and they're saying the whole thing aboutpower and the whole "all i want is" and all that -- i wanted to make it very vocal. so,i asked him to come in and help me. and, you know, he also worked with the kids and hecame up to me one day and he goes, "you know, this show really reminds me of requiem fora dream," and i go, "my god, that's like one of my favorite movies of all time!" so, theni watched that movie again and that brought in ideas -- we brought in music from requiemfor a dream -- and it really ticked in and i think that one moment where he said thatto me changed the entire show for me. i'm like, "i am going to make this, like, completelyout there and visually striking and just say

they're either going to love it or hate it."so, it's mostly music for me. that's my thought process. that's how i think. lindsay: and, also, it seems being open to,like, collaborators. like, you know, letting somebody say something to you and going, "oh,my god, that's a great idea. let's run with that." and, also, you know, not being afraidof people liking it or hating it too. i mean, i think that's the only time when you knowyou're doing something right is when you get those reactions i think. lindsay: okay. so, how did you convey yourvision to your student actors? annie: we read it and i explained it to themand they fell in love with the play right

away. they got all excited about the play.they got it because they know that i'm the type of person that doesn't like overdramaticpieces so they knew why i liked it right away, that i like something that's going to makepeople laugh but convey a message and we just went over and over it again, we talked aboutthe power structure of the way things were set up here in the united states. i probablysaid stuff that i shouldn't say as a teacher talking about, like, how the banks are allin control, blah blah blah, a whole bunch of conspiracy theories, but they always thinki'm crazy so it's okay. lindsay: just live with it, right? annie: yeah. i'm like, "this is just my thought.some people believe this, i'm not saying it's

the way things are but, you know..." lindsay: well, it's an example of what you'resaying for the show, that's what it's for, it's a support. annie: and even, like, you see that conceptwhen you have the guy coming out dancing in the beginning and in the end, and he's allin a suit with a tie and the rest of the kids aren't dressed like that, so it shows somekind of power structure and, for some people, that is the power structure, that is whatcontrols us here in the united states, capitalism. so, you know, it's all about money. so, iexplained that to them and a lot of them have seen, i have shown bits and pieces of titusto them. i have shown -- no, i haven't shown

them requiem for a dream, i lie -- but i showthem bits and pieces of titus, some of the very visually striking moments of it so thatthey understood what i was going for. lindsay: how did you develop your conceptfor the makeup and the costumes? because i really loved it, they're so unique, and fitsyour vision really nicely, i think. annie: well, i just was driving home a lotat, like, 7:00, 8:00 at night and watching the sunset and i thought the most beautifulthing was the purples and pinks and dull colors fading behind the sun, and that's where thecolor scheme came from. i just love the faded, like, it was almost beautiful and hauntingat the same time, and that's kind of what i wanted for the design. and then, the skirtsthat you saw all the girls wearing is their

skirts that i just started making myself andi'm like, "oh, they look cool so i'm going to put them in there and it also works withthe whole puppet thing." so, yeah, it's really nothing special. lindsay: no. annie: because i wanted it puppets, i wanted it to be kindof dull. you know, i didn't want to go with, like, blacks and dark colors. i wanted colorsbut i wanted it to be dull and that's just really what it came to, because whenever youwatch these darker movies, it's almost a sense of the color faded, you know, so the color,it takes, like, kind of a black and white concept but it just puts a little pop to itwhen there's the colors, and that's really

what i was going for. the two strongest movies for me in creatingit was requiem for a dream and titus and the darkness in those movies. but the way thatit plays, it brings out the emotional -- not the emotional, the mental process of the emotionsthat these people are feeling and that's what i wanted to bring out in the show. so, that'swhy those colors came through. lindsay: yeah, no, that's awesome. so, whatwas the audience response? annie: that's a hard one for me because iwas sitting there in competition and i was sitting there as a really critical directorand i was commenting, my mom was sitting right next to me, i'm like, "they just screwed up!they just screwed up! they just screwed up!"

that's all that was going through my headand then, at the end, they got a standing ovation and i'm like, "oh, these are justthespians being nice," and i ran out. lindsay: oh! annie: so, i didn't take any of that in. and,you know, when they called our name at the end and we got a superior, i started cryingas did the rest of my cast because we're a four-year-old program, we've only been doingcompetitions, this is our third year doing the one-act competition. in the past two years,we got goods. so, when they passed our name for excellent, we're all thinking, "oh, crap,we got a good again, great." and so, it was a complete shock for us and, you know, theaudience love that the kids keep on getting

compliments up to this day. we went to mymom's school just recently and we performed it and we did the whole theatre of the oppressedthing afterwards where we invited the audience to come up and solve the problem of the play,and my mom had a show that night and she kept on getting compliments the next day aboutthe show, and she would say at the end of the compliment, she would realize they weretalking about my show, not hers. lindsay: oh, no! annie: so, you know, the audience responsehas been great. i just wish that i was able to stop thinking as a director and actuallywas able to take it in at the competition because i just was so lost in being a directorthat i didn't get to appreciate that. i just

really hope my students were able to reallyappreciate it and take in that moment because that's the kind of moment that's going tochange their life forever. lindsay: oh, absolutely. well, you know, theexperience is something that would change their life. you know, they're not doing, youknow, they're doing something unique, and then, getting a response for it, and then,it sounds like you guys have, you know, taken a really important step forward. annie: right. lindsay: so, what's it like having such ayoung program? like, is it frustrating? is it exciting? do you feel alone? like, what'sit like? there's a lot of teachers out there

who are in your same boat. so, what's it like? annie: well, the great thing about miami andthis might only be because i grew up in this program -- you know, my mom's a drama teacheralso so, you know, i started drama very young and then i went to a magnet school when iwas in high school and all of the drama teachers in dade county know me -- they either knowme because they were my teachers or they know me because just the connections we make because,in dade county, we're all pretty close and we all know each other and we have a reallybig program, too. so, i don't really feel alone. you know, i'm probably blessed in thatsense and then i have a very supportive administration also and i'm very grateful for that becausei know a lot of arts teachers, you know, struggle

to get any support from their administration.my administration loves me, they'd do anything to support me so i don't feel alone. thereare definitely struggles in trying to get things started. you know, teaching the studentstheatre discipline and letting them know, you know, it's not just getting up on stageand trying to create a culture within the school to have that discipline. it was reallyhard at first but now i feel like i'm finally getting somewhere. i love building my ownprogram. i'm, fortunately or unfortunately, a very independent person and i feel thatbuilding my own program allows me that independence to structure something the way i feel it shouldbe structured. so, it's a little bit of ego there, i guess.

lindsay: ah! you know what? why not? you know,because it means that things happen, right? lindsay: okay. so, pie in the sky, where wouldyou love to be with your program in ten years? annie: in ten years, i want a theatre. myschool, we don't even have a theatre. i want a theatre and i know that my administrationhas talked about making my school into a school for the arts. i would love to see that happenand i would love to have a program where my students experience all different forms oftheatre, all different forms of art, and understand that, you know, it's not just about studying...well, the one thing i love about theatre is it's not just about studying acting. theatreis one of those art forms where you need the art, where you need the music, where you needthe dance, where you get to combine and synthesize

all these different forms of art and producesomething new. and i just really want them to experience that and, yeah, that's be adrama teacher or the only other thing i'd ever want to do is drama therapy. lindsay: that sounds awesome. yeah, that soundsgreat. okay. well, i think that about wraps it up. i really appreciate that you took thetime to talk to me tonight and i just love, i just think that the most important thingthat any director can have is vision, and any time that we can sort of get that outthere and share it, like, okay, as we wrap up here, just put out there for any beginningdrama teachers who are just sort of getting into directing and not sure where to start,where do you start with building a vision

for a show? annie: i think the most important thing todo is to find things that inspire you. don't just read a play and try to go from there.it's about listening to music and watching as much as you possibly can of films and otherplays and looking at art and just find in nature and even architecture. looking at alldifferent type of things and combining those ideas to create something new because, ifyou just have a narrow vision, it's going to take you nowhere. you have to look at everything.you have to look around you. you have to look at the smallest little bits of nature to thebiggest things you can possibly see and find a way to combine them and synthesize thoseideas.

lindsay: it's like finding examples from thesense, i guess, right? you know, textures and sounds and just visuals and... annie: yeah, that's the way to do it. lindsay: yeah, absolutely. awesome. thankyou so much, annie! now, go get some sleep and, hey, are you going to florida state thisyear? annie: yes, of course! lindsay: all right. well, i'm going to bethere, too. annie: nice, nice, nice! okay. so, i definitelywill come and say hi to you! lindsay: awesome. thank you so much, annie.

annie: you're very welcome. thank you. thank you, annie. my favorite part of thisinterview is how she equates teaching to being an artist and i know a ton of actors who thinkof teaching as the fallback plan. "oh, if i can't make it as an artist, i'll teach,"and annie doesn't think that way at all. i love how she loves inspiring students becauseshe was inspired by drama when she was in school. you know, i just think that's great.great, great, great talk. okay. it's time for what? theatrefolk news.okay. have you signed up for our email list? have you signed up for our email list? haveyou signed up for our email list? because you really, really should. okay. so, whatis it? it is a weekly missive from us with

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Friday, February 24, 2017

puppets inc

columbia police!search warrant! kick it open! get to the door! go, go, go!get to the door! police department!don't move! o.s. bang move past us! move past! come on, guys, you're fine.you're fine. don't move!do you understand? put your hands behindyour back! do it now!

behind your back! just shoot me! did you shoot my dog? did you shootmy fucking dog? oh my god! what the fuck did youdo that for? if you cannot affordto hire a lawyer, one will be appointed to represent you and answerany questions you wish

you can decide at anytimeto exercise these rights, not to answer any questionsor make any statements do you understand? do you understand? we'll take that as a yes. ♪ we can't live in a society which is both free and drug-free. you can't have 'em both. the whole process of moving from one state of mind being persuaded to another by seeing the truth

is one of actually feeling an identification that resonates and has a feeling of wholeness and coherence to it. it makes chaos orderly it's the mindset that got us here and the journey that we've taken. fifty years of criminalization. it came out of the whole idea that we don't have to care for each other anymore it's every man for himself. we weren't always like that! the question is, can we go back

to caring about each other? what are the nuances that define a culture? is it the way we police ourselves? the way we take care of our sick? how we govern? the way we share information? 77 years ago, marijuana becameprohibited in the united states by 1961, its criminalization reached global status. today, we find the topic of marijuana's legality

penetrating all forms of media and every level of politics. it is now the polarizing topic in an endless display of public debates. the goal? to answer the question that refuses to die: should marijuana be legalized? but, ever so slowly, a second question is starting to appear a question that seeks an answer to whether marijuana prohibition itself has gained characteristics that reveal a greater truth about ourselves

and the way our society operates. is this a bad idea? is this a downward spiral of our culture? a new study revealsthat smoking marijuana could increase your risk for testicular cancer so the research doesn't bother you that smoking pot cancause man boobs? pot just makes you dumb what's to keep somebody fromgettin' all potted-up on weed and then gittin' behind the wheel?

"marijuana leads to breast development in males," like all of these myths,front page story! those things have been comingalong one, after another. i should be impotent when i smoke marijuana. well i'm not! the thought process behind demonizing something like marijuana is completely out of ignorance. where's the bodies? where's the numbers? is there one? because i have heard fromexperts whose judgment

i respect that they don'tknow of any. the only way marijuana can kill you is if you take 25lbs of it and you throwit out of a cia drug plane and it hits you in the fuckin' head. that's how you die from marijuana. there's that famous 911 call where those cops stolepot from some kids, and then turned it intopot brownies, and then ate the brownies

and freaked the fuck out andcalled the cops on themselves. it's beautiful 'cause theythought they were dying, time is going by really slow,and then it ends: they're fine. but everyone can agree anti-marijuana ads in this country have gotten fuckin'ridiculous. like a girl will be melted on the couch with no bones and she's like, 'i smoked pot and now i don't have bones.' i associated a lot of thesepeople that were smokin' pot with poorly motivated people who were failures.

i had a prejudiced perception of what marijuana actually did to a human being. (v.o.) among the perceived harms of marijuana, two seem to arise on a daily basis more than any others. two seem to be the main reasons given for why marijuana must be kept from the public. the first: there's the famous 'just onespliff and you will go mental.' (doorbell) (tag line) the more you mess with cannabis,

the more it can mess with your mind. my first seven years as aresearcher were devoted to schizophrenia. i can tellyou, that is ridiculous. we looked at the evidence-i think we must have gone through about 2,000 papers and it doesn't causeschizophrenia. maybe there are some individuals with schizophrenia in which the illness is brought on perhaps a little earlier because they smoked cannabis.

there often is what's called a precipitating event. a precipitating event is something like an important loss of a person,a severe car accident... it certainly can be exacerbatedby a number of drugs. a bad alcohol trip can serveas a precipitating event, too. the fact is schizophreniahas a prevalence of about 1%... the world around. cannabis use... let's start withthe 60s, its gone up like that. so! you've introducedthis new thing:

if it's schizophrenogenic we should see a significantuptick in schizophrenia. we should see more peoplewith schizophrenia. schizophrenia has stayedjust like that. in all of the epidemiologicstudies that i'm aware of, there is no uptick. so if marijuana causesschizophrenia it was introduced now we should havemore schizophrenia. we don't see that.

we would certainly seesome little rise in that given the numbers of people who use this. you really do need to stripthis back and address this from a neutral platformto understand that anything to do with mental health is such a tenuous issue built upon different contributing factors and by applying it all to cannabis you are possiblydoing more harm because you are negatingall these other factors

that certainlyplay a part. for a lot of people, the impact of life itself is overwhelming so they'll seek outsomething to distract them whether it's drinkin'cough syrup or takin' naps or jerking off or gambling there's a lot ofthings that people do to distract them fromthe angst of being alive. it might not be for you, itmight make you paranoid; you might have smoked some bad weed once

and thought you were having a heart attack. cannabis is notfor everybody. nobody should beforced to use it. there's a lot of reasons whymarijuana might not be for you. but you shouldn't tell methat it's not right for me. (v.o.) the most frequently-cited perceived harm associated with marijuana today is addiction. i mean, you do know it's addictive -highly addictive-right?

because i believe it's addictive and it leads to moreserious drugs... but in order to understand addiction in relation to marijuana one must first have anunderstanding of the psychology behind addiction in the first place. it's interesting to see, or toask, 'who becomes addicted?' people can have sex without being addicted to it, they can go shopping, but some people become severely addicted to all these pursuits.

is a pack of cards addictive? well, no. or yes. depending onthe individual. so, it's the same process nomatter what the addiction is. the only difference is really is that the substance addict is getting the dopamine from an outside substance, where the behaviour addict is having it triggered from the particular behaviour. if i speak to a group of 100people or 1000 people and i ask how many of you have addictionissues to any substance?

a number of people puttheir hands up, and i say 'what did it do for you?not 'what was bad about it' we already know that, butwhat did it do for you? what was positive in your experience with it? well, 'it gave me a sense ofpeace; it gave me pain relief it made me feelmore connected... it made me more confident i could speak now and interact with people. in other words, the addict is just after wanting to be

a normal human being and the real question is, what keeps them from having those qualities in their lives and what happened to them? and so the addiction shouldbe seen, not as the problem although it is a problem,but it's not the problem. it's the addict's attempt to solve the problem in the first place. the adverse childhood experiences studies done in california...

looked at conditions such asphysical, sexual, emotional abuse in the child's life the loss of a parent to death or a rancorous divorce or a parent being jailed or a mental illness in the parent or an addiction of the parent, or violence in the family and for each of these adversechildhood experiences, the risk of addiction goes up exponentially. by the time a male child had 6 of these adverse experiences his risk of having become a substance-dependent

injection-using addict is 4600% greater than that of a male child with no such experiences. why is that? its because that trauma shapestheir brain in such ways as to make the addictive substances more appealing to the individual. that trauma also gives that person the pain that they will try to then escape from or soothe through the addictive behaviors.

it's the social and emotional environment that shapes the actual biology of the brain so if you want to understand someone's addiction, you have to look at what's created pain in their lives. the person who occasionally has a beer, occasionally smokes marijuana, but generally has no negative consequences; it does not impair their health, it does not endanger their lives,

it does not impair their personal relationships- you can't call those people addicts, and you can't call those behaviors addictive. so we have to make a real distinction between the use of substances and the addiction to substances. which then leads us to the "war on drugs:" basically the war on drugs is being waged against people that were abused and traumatized as children and have mental health problems.

there's enough punishment in there- in the negative consequencesof the addiction that we don't have to add punishment on to that. the number of deaths around the world from cigarette consumption is five-and-a-half million according to latest estimates. annually, cigarettes kill as many people as were killed in the germans' anti-jewish genocidal campaign. so we have a holocaustannually, owing to cigarettes.

if you smoke more than two packs a day, the risk for developing lung cancer was twenty-fold that's 2000%. based on the largestcase-controlled study ever done, there was no evidence thatmarijuana increased the risk of lung cancer. you've gotta have some consistency: there's a million different drugs that are sanctioned by the society that don't have that happy ending-

-that you take too muchand you're fucked. i've got a friend whoseauntie had to go to rehab for buying two boxes of krispykremes every day and eating them in thewoods so nobody found her. based on that anecdote, let's make krispy kremes illegal. i will fight any man, by theway who suggests that. it's just like eating a pound of salt and dying. yeah, ya didn't use salt rightdude. you fucked up with salt if you just threw some salton popcorn

it's actually quite yummy, butwhat'd you do, you stupid fuck? you ate a pound of salt and you died. doesn't mean we should outlaw salt. our society doesn't object topeople jumping out of airplanes at fifteen thousand feet with parachutes occasionally those parachutes break; people die. our society doesn't objectto people climbing mountains occasionally people fall off mountains and do harm to themselves, but it's notillegal to climb a mountain.

if i had to comparemarijuana to alcohol from the medical point of view, if i asked the question, 'which of these has more potentially debilitating and harmful life threatening, health-eroding effects?' there's no comparison, there's no contest; alcohol wins, hands down. the tune of 50 000 plus per yeardie from alcohol poisoning. they literally drink themselvesto death. pot: zero. do we have a war on alcoholand tobacco when alcohol

is the drug that's involvedwith more murders than any other drug onplanet earth? how do we view theeffect of beer? holy shit! we are so dependent on it if you have a social gatheringand there isn't booze there, people lose their minds! celebrating: let's go to the pub when we talk aboutcommiserating:

let's go to the pub. i'm happy let's go to the pub!my dog died let's go to the pub. it's wines-day wednesday. best day of the week! great job getting us drunk! we could all use a stiff drink fantastic! margarita day if you're not gonna drink it,pass it around how are you spending new year's eve? i'm gonna get real drunk!

many years ago, we did a poll in parliament and we asked them, 'is alcohol a drug?' and the majority of politicianssaid alcohol was not a drug. and they say well, it's not a drug because it's not illegal. and that gets to this peculiar, dangerous concept that once something's illegal,it must be dangerous, and when something's not illegal, it must be safe. so it's interesting if we lookat the whole issue of illegal drugs in oursociety you'll find that

when the word 'drug' is used to refer to those substances, another word is almost always attached to it and that is, 'abuse.' "drug abuse." what happens is that all illicitdrugs get lumped together. caffeine is a drug, alcohol is a drug. tylenol is a drug,sudafed is a drug. viagra is a drug. people, when they think of drugs, ...they think only of illicit drugs.

theres a mass of disinformation and that misinformation and disinformation confusesthe shit out of people when they're trying to formtheir version of what's good and what's badin the world. if it's absurd to throw someone in prison for drinking coffee or for drinking wine, then it's equally absurd and wrong to throw someone in prison forsmoking cannabis. nobody has ever overdosed oncannabis. d'you know that? so what? they can't performdaily functions;

they're going to be on my tax bill! the idea that one is ok and oneisn't just seemed to require something resembling evidence before you could make that statement definitively. one of the things i think is important about marijuana use or alcohol use or anything isthat you're responsible with it and you could be irresponsible with anything and you should weigh the risks and the rewards there's no moral middle ground.indifference is not an option.

we want you to help us createan outspoken intolerance for drug use. is the rationale of protecting people from themselves valid? the only people who are responsible for protecting us from ourselves are ourselves. if our society denies us the opportunity to make mistakes, it's denying us a very fundamental human right because mistakes are part of theteaching process in this life. tell another grown human being ah, ah, ah! nope!

nope! nope! not allowed that.a grown man! no, not you! but i'm a grown up; i'm an evolved human being. no! just .put. that. down! if there's real harm in adrug and your real objective is to persuade people thatthey shouldn't harm themselves in that way, you don't need laws that send them to prison- what you need is good infor- mation that they'll believe just disseminate that infor- mation and free independent sovereign adults will maketheir own choices about

that information: either tocontinue with that drug or not to continue with it,but they have the facts. if a professional like youcannot answer clearly that meth is more dangerousthan marijuana- which every kid on the streetknows, which every parent knows if you can't answer that,maybe that's why we're failing to educate peopleabout the dangers i don't want kidssmoking marijuana. i agree with the chairman

but if the deputy directorof the office of drug policy can't answer that question,how do you expect high school kids to take you seriously? i empathize with parents ofteenaged kids; they can get lost a kid sitting in school stoned-you can't accept accept a position that says,'oh, that's fine, no problem.' yeah, that's a problem,but the question is whether it's a criminal problem. the question is whether it's a 'growing up' kind of a problem.

i want reasons more than 'you need to be afraid of some cop catching you, and locking you up forever in a prison' to talk to my children abouthow they relate to various temptationsin life. this country is held up as amodel around the world of dealing with cigarettesmoking: we brought it down (way down!) why? by educating people. it doesn't make sense to punish people if what you're mainly worriedabout is their welfare

name something that getspassed around. chris? a joint! a joint? (laughter and applause) (laughing) its the only thingthat came to mind... the moral question of drug use, you can set aside, because the drug use andthe drug abuse is here. we have a real fundamentalenjoyment of

changing the way that thisthing operates and, for as long as that is true, you have demand. you don't have to be a capitalist, you don't have to to be economist, but we all know: where there is demand, there is supply. a plant that's very easy to grow suddenly becomes something that's worth thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars a pound

because you're compensating the producers and the transporters for the risk of going to jail or being arrested or being shot or other things that happen to people involved in criminal activity. (v.o.) and with that profit comes opportunity sometimes to the most unlikely of people. i went to oxford tostudy nuclear physics and some post-graduate historyand philosophy of science, but forsook the halls ofacademia to become a dopesmuggler.

quite early on, i started smuggling cannabis from europe to america. in thosedays, in the very early 70's- there'd be a markup of about 300%. british bands were beginning to get very popular and they were visiting the states with an awful lot of equipment, so we used tohide hashish in various speakers and amplifiers et cetera. pink floyd, emerson, lake & palmer, eric clapton, genesis. the bands didn't know; it was just an arrangement

i made with the road managers. organizations i was involved with; the mafia, the yakuza the i.r.a. and a few cowboys from the c.i.a., but it wasn't under c.i.a.auspices: just a few cowboys who were doing things behindthe rest of the c.i.a's back. consignments i did into jfk in new york were with the gambino family: the deal was structured in such a way that one couldn't cheat them even if one was daft enoughto try.

the average load would be about a ton. i had a huge number of aliases during my smuggling career; at least 43 aliases, but itwas so much easier in those days to get a false passport. i remember, on oneoccasion, applying to the driving licensecenter for a license in the name of elvis presleyof whom i'm a big fan and they actually issued itbecause computers didn't scream in the 50's!oh, elvis presley? fine!

the biggest shipment everthat i did was 30 tons. the dea say it was 50 tons, buti know it was only 30 tons! the british had more or lessgiven up: no you can't catch him the spanish had given up,no, you can't catch him... americans said, oh, we'll catchhim - and they were right! it was a combined effort of 14 different countries' law enforcement spearheaded by the dea actually. cannabis was the only drug i smuggled. i think largely because i wasn't really tempted

to do anything else; the demandfor cannabis wasn't met. if cannabis had been legal, i would have carried on being an academic of some sort. i do miss smuggling; you could never get that thrill that i had from crossing borders from writing!you can't... i suppose if i thought i couldget away with it, i'd crank it up today and go back to doing it! i mean i loved it. it's interesting when you look at the amount of money

that these drugs are generating. where does that money go?and who's handling it? (v.o.) with the vast amounts of money to be made, the potential for a dark side of the underground market begins to grow with enough time and enough money, it can rise to inconceivable levels, and often, right under our nose. what the drug war has done to mexico is horrific .

the death toll alone in the mexican drug war under the calderon administration: it's more than the number ofamericans that were lost invietnam. now we're up to 70,000 dead. seventy thousand! the bloodshed follows a mass killing in the mexican border city of nuevo laredo last week where nine bodies were left for the public to see and fourteen other bodies were found mutilated. and this is happening on our southern border

and yet very little attention is paid to it. it is the united states thatsends the guns across the borders to mexico it is the united states that,then in return for the guns imports the drugs. a lot of people think that thoseseventy thousand dead are all gangsters shootin' it out with each other not true. they're police officers, they're children they're families, they're mothers and fathers.

you're raising your kids with an education and your kids go off to a nightclub some night and they never come home. why? because kids have been kidnappedat random and mutilated. beyond the horrific death toll, and the horrific acts of violence,and decapitations and bodies hanging from bridges,the drug war has really led to a deterioration in theinfrastructures of society which means that virtually every municipal police force

in much of mexico is corrupted by one cartel or another. what does that mean? that means if you're a lower-middleclass mexican and your house gets broken into,who do you call? you have nobody to go to, andif you do call the police, they're just as likelyto tell the cartel hey this person's ratting onyou as they are to help you and take a report, andbring somebody to jail. so, if you murder somebody in mexico, you have less than

a 5% chance of ever spending a day in jail for that and that is almostentirely a product of what the drug war has done to law enforcement, the judiciary and the corrections systems in mexico. the last thing a mexican drug- trafficking cartel would want would be for drugs to be legalized in the united states because that would take awaytheir primary source of income. how do you kill a cartel and a street gangorganization in drugs?

you take their source of nutrition away. their source of nutrition is - money; drug money.you dry 'em up. the idea that you're gonnasomehow or another be able to be able to make marijuanaillegal and it's not going to have some of impacton organized crime is so fuckin' dumbit's childish! this prohibition allows them to flourish i mean it did with alcohol.

when prohibition was going onand the mafia and al capone and all them motherfuckers was in control, they ran that shit! the american people soon came to understand that prohibition of alcohol brought greater harm than the abuse of alcohol. declaring prohibition on themarijuana laws makes everything more dangerous 370 billion dollars a year gointo the underworld's pockets

and bad people with that kind of money can do horrendous things... (v.o.) if marijuana prohibition isn't achieving the goals we think it should, what has caused it to be pursued the way it has? what are the elements that keep it propped up... and where did it all start? while most fingers might point to the year 1937 when marijuana was firstoutlawed by a tax stamp required for hemp, let's fast-forward 34 years to 1971.

that was the year the public first heard this: ladies and gentlemen, i wouldlike to summarize for you the meeting that i have justhad with bipartisan leaders america's public enemy numberone, in the united states, is drug abuse. attorney general kliendienstfor nixon was quoted thereafter and he was sorrowful that hehad been involved in this he said thatthey knew- in the nixon administration-

that drug treatment works and incarceration does not, but the enormous politicalbenefit by declaring a war on drugs, that can't really fight back. he said they chose the incarceration route for political reasons and then were absolutely overwhelmed at positive political benefits they received for doing that. there's actualdocumentation that shows the united states governmentunder nixon was actively writing to universities and saying 'pull your information of cannabis,

hemp and marijuana out of your libraries.' literally: purge it. so it took them from 1972,'71... '72, to the late 1970's to create this myth that marijuana would lead to using harder substances. once that myth was established then the numbers exploded and you could go to congress and get money. i am glad that, in thisadministration we have increased

the amount of money for handling the problem of dangerous drugsseven-fold. it will be 600 million dollarsthis year. this is one area where we cannot have budget cuts because we must wage what ihave called total war against public enemy numberone in the united states: the problem ofdangerous drugs. most law enforcement agencies,before the 1970s, had very small narcotic units because

narcotics wasn't seen as a big problem. by the end of the decade, the narcotic units had exploded; federal money came in... and then...ronald reagan came. tonight i can report to youthat we've made much progress. 37 federal agenciesare working together in a vigorous national effortand, by next year, our spending for drug law enforcement will have more than tripled from it's 1981 levels

whenever we hear the word 'war' on anything, i think it should alert our antenna that a mind-management gameis going on. what is meant by the waron drugs? that's a verygood question how can you have a war on a noun? it's a bit like... again, the war on terror: it's a war on a concept. we humans are verymotivated by war. we are extremely motivated by a metaphor of violent confrontation.

it goes all the way back to the very first foremothers of all life on earth: bacteria 3.85 billion years ago. bacteria are incrediblysocial - they live in armies- they live in armies of seven trillion and they are constantly communicating with each other, they are constantly exchanging data; it's a little informationprocessing network, but what happens... when two, three, four or seven colonies

of bacteria discover all the same food source? they make "war." what motivates ants? they goabout doing their daily business all of the time, but when an alarm pheromone hits that indicates there's been an invasion from outside the colony wham-o! everybody drops whatthey're doing; everybody rushes to the site ofthe breach where the odor (the alarm pheromone) is coming from.

i mean, we humans, we're thechildren of bacteria; we humans, we're the cousins of ants: just tell us there's an outsider at the gates! you use the metaphor of war for just about anything and it gets us roused, but especially use it about our group versusanother group, our subculture versus another subculture, and you can really get us going. it's clear inneurolinguistic programming.

because if you associatewar, you associate it with a nation having topull together to fighta baddy out there. now, some folks'll tell youthat i'm dealing in poison, but hey, do i look likethe kinda guy that would do that do akid like you? yes! it's a rhetorical frame inwhich the sacrifice of individual "liberty" seems... necessary. this is what's needed to win the war. last year alone, over 10,000drug criminals were convicted

and nearly 250 million dollarsof their assets were seized by the dea-the drug enforcement administration. these are a measure of our commitment and emerging signs that we can defeat this enemy. the astounding thing aboutthe war on drugs, is how long it's gone on and howlittle progress has been made. when i was working for mi-5,i had my first, sort of... inkling that allwas not good because i was working on the irish terrorist logistics desk

which is the movement of people and weapons into and out of the uk-and,of course, doing that, i had to work very closely withcustoms, which is there to try and stop the drugs coming into the uk. they just, knew it was like looking for the needle in a haystack just to try and stop these drugs flooding into the uk. i had record-breaking arrests, record-breaking interdiction of supply, but it didn'tmake one iota of difference. you don't see us knocking off the big guys

so often that, you know, there's scarcity of drugs. when was the last time you couldn't cop marijuana in this country?i mean, there's panic in needle park:there's no marijuana out there! oh my god, what am i gonna do? i don't think you could go into any high school in the country, i don't think you could go into any small town in this country, i don't think you could go into any prison in this country and not find marijuana

if you were looking for it. so the argument thatmarijuana prohibition has had any impact on the availabilityon the drug, i think, really doesn't hold water what we see are a regular meal of arrests and how many bales of this or kilos of that. the show-and-tell is the glamorous side of it look at this: all of this pot found inside one semi-truck. 20 000 lbs. worth. border patrol calling it

the biggest bust inour state's history. you wheel out your 60, 70, 80 kilos of marijuana, your two assault rifles. the thing of it is, if you took the averageshow-and- tell... from the average arrest... you'd have some little kid- i mean he might be 15, 17, 18, 20 years old- and you wouldproudly display... a small bag of marijuanaon your table

and say, we got him! we got him. came from ontario, oregon intoidaho with some mushrooms and some weed, and i gotcaught with an exhaust so he pulled me over, he puthis head in the window and said he smelled it (hedidn't need a dog), so i just handed it to him just to getit over with. it's such a joke to say that they're going afterhardcore criminals. about one-and-a-half millionarrests on drug-related offenses

in the year 2011-about 50% were for marijuana use. it's practically legal!i get that all the time... especially herein california and what i say tothose people is, 'it's absolutely not practically legal.' it's very, very federally illegal. it's just an ongoing story that at this point really it seems little more than thepremise for television shows. synthetic marijuana:dangerous, deadly, illegal.

tonight, the county'stop cop says much of this stuff was beingmade in the back of that plaza. they got away with itfor a little bit, but at the end of the day, they're not going to getaway with it for very long. there's another aspect to this game: that is the economic side of it. there's a deal between the feds and the state and that's asset seizures

they call it an "equitablesharing program" where they encourage local lawenforcement to seize items that maybe involved in criminal activity. they do an 80/20 split. without even getting a conviction and then they keep the bulk of the money or the assets seized. maybe ya just wanna see the kind of stuff the government seizes from criminals right now you can actuallycheck out a number of

forfeited vehicles going up for auction tomorrow at the apple towing in guadalupe. these are awesome cars! thisone caught my eye of course first it's a 1968chevy camaro... the guy with the nice ride: i'll lock him up. i'll seize his car. i'll hit a house, i'll seize bank accounts, i'll seize land - all because i'm producing for the state. there's an incentive forthe state to say, 'do it,'

but the law is such that theonus to get back your property is on you! not on the police department; you have to fight toget back something -through the court system- that they took away that they had no righttaking in the first place. (v.o.) between 1989 and 2010, an estimated 12.6 billion dollars was seized by u.s. attorneys in asset forfeiture cases the growth rate of seizures during that time

was nearly a 20% increase every single year. in the country where i grew up-america-where, you know everybody is so proud of having guns and proud of their freedom.'no, i'm not afraid!' really? go plant some cannabis in your front yard and tell me how fast it takes for the man to come and take everything you own! every year the dea tells you how many seizures they've made all that tells you is: is that we have failed again.

what's your budget? well, currently...um approximately... uh, two million... two million ? two-i'm sorry-two billion dollars... yeah... you can look into anyfederal agency you want to... literally in their budgetyou will see

the extra tens of millions of dollars are earmarked expressly to fight "the war on drugs." when you get to the top of both towers, the interests are the same. the major drug dealer wantsto continue selling drugs... law enforcement wants tocontinue trying to prosecute people who are using the drugs and there's a harmony there. if you've ever seen the filmof the head of the dea- lionhart i believe is her name-when they asked her

is marijuana worse than heroin? and she sat there and stuttered around; she wouldn't answer the question. uh, is crack worse for aperson than marijuana? i believe all illegal drugsare bad is methamphetamine worse for somebody's health than marijuana? i don't thinkany illegal drug... is heroin worse for someone'shealth than marijuana? again...

i mean, either yes, no, or i don't know! i mean, if you don't know,you can look this up; you should know this as the chief administrator for the drugenforcement agency i'm asking you a very straightforward question. she couldn't answer the question because she's a dyed-in-the-woolprohibitionist and her industry her life, is dependent upon us continuing to put 43 millionpeople in jail.

about 85% of everybody in our country that uses any form of illicit substance whatsoever uses only marijuana and so if you were to remove those people from the criminal justice system the sheer number of everyone else in the country using every other illegal drugcombined would not justify this colossal bureaucracy wehave to fight the war on drugs. it would fall apart. if you lose marijuana prohibition, you lose drug prohibition and the government knows it;

they don't want to give that up because of the sheer money involved, going down the path tolegalization in this country is reckless and irresponsible.it scares us; the treatment people are afraid, the education people are afraid.law enforcement is, is, isworried... what is gonna happen? people say, 'well, the vicecops who work on on marijuana prohibition wouldbe out of work,

the people who workfor the dea, some of them wouldbe out of jobs,' the white house drug czaroffice and so on and so forth. i mean, that's just the mostlunatic defense ofprohibition. by that logic, we shouldprohibit everything! because then we'd need to cops to enforce food prohibition and housing prohibition and medicine prohibition. beginning in the 1980s, the police departments became

a number-driven group. one arrest is one arrest soif i spend a year and a half taking down a violent drugorganization that's killed maybe 15-20 people andi lock up six guys i get six ones. if i went out on the corner tomorrow, i can get fifteen "ones"and they all count the same. there's no weighing forlike, 'this is the murderer: we give him fifteen points. this guy's the marijuana guy: we give him .2 points.'

no, no,it's all the same. one thing about a cannabis arrest is it's easy, it's not dangerous, and it turnsinto a solved crime very quickly with very littlepaperwork. the whole thing is numbers because numbers generate revenue. that revenue keepscongress giving you money that money, then, you can turn around part of it and keep pressure on congress. you don't come with thosenumbers-they retaliate

by giving you badevaluations. that's basically whatthey did to me. this is a business: we havealmost a five billion dollar budget a year so werun it like a business and it's fair to ask the employeeshere to do their fair share. it's not easy to geta trafficker. it's not like walking upto the corner or shaking the lockers of a high school. you reach a point, especially as an executive or a supervisor

where you are now part of administering the policies and you start to ask the hard questions. is it really worth a police officer's time to bust somebody for a marijuana cigarette, take them off the street, putthem in jail, book the evidence write the report and then be able to go back out on the street and attend to public safety after you've been gone for 3 hoursfor one marijuana arrest? i used to go to meetings ofchief police officers in the uk

after the formal conferencewas over around the bar and around the dinner table, they were all agreeingthat there was no point in keepingcannabis illegal and yet what they said when the cameras were rolling, when the microphones were in front of them, was completely different. in the 15 years i'vebeen in policy, i'm a little disillusioned byhow much we were

able to achieve and very disillusioned on the ability of leaders tostill pretend we are achieving. you know we need police forces if i was in charge of society,of course i'd have a police force, buti'd make sure there were sensible laws for them to enforce. and there are plenty ofpolice who feel like that too. there's immense pressure on theinside of these sort of professions to toe the lineand just keep quiet.

the culture will eat you upif in fact you come out whileyou're a police leader. if they were to come out and say that they were in favor of taxation,regulation of marijuana they wouldn't get their promotions, they wouldn't be able to move through the ranks; they'll be labeled and i've seen thattake place. there's alot of work being done on what creates respectfor laws;

to what extent do people feel that laws are legitimate. if they feel that laws are legitimate, they're likely to comply with them without needing to be coerced into them and punished. and the research is suggestingthat people want fairness. in a sense, what createsrespect for law is justice. seeing it done. that elicits great respect when you actually see itbeing done. there's another kind of respect though, which is

respect for the stick-it's like the force of authority pretty much, marijuana works with the stick. one of the consequences of the war on drugs is people have stopped looking at the police as their protectors and more see them, right, as their potentialpersecutors. the police department basically becomes the 'other' to the community, and once you have that breakdown,

then information stops flowing. so you don't learn about crimesand then the only crime you really become interested in is the one ou can solve which islocking people up on the cornerfor using drugs. and, you know, a great metric of that is murder clearance rates. so, a murder is cleared when an arrest is made and somebody goes to jail and in 1965, we were clearing-police were clearing-

about 90% of the murders thatwere committed in this country. that means, for 90% of the murders in this country there was an arrest and a charge and today that's under 65%. that's after all the tremendous technological advances in policing: you know, dna evidence all sorts of forensics and, you know, expanding police budgets and that sort of thing. i think if we were to look at one cause for that drop in murder clearance rates it's the breakdown inthe relationship between

society at largeand the police and, you know, that byextension, is a consequence almost entirely ofthe war on drugs. by having to uphold theseoutdated and failed policies, it ruins our reputation and it damages the community relations between the police and the policed, as well. whole generations havegrown up distrusting their local policerather than seeing them

as a potentialprotective layer of society. when you do this, youchange the whole nature of the game, andfrom 1980 on the police become more andmore militarized. the initiation of the drug warwas the initiation of a general loosening of const-raint on search and seizure it became just part of police practice to be breaking down the door. we see it now as a staple of cops;that's now our reality.

that wasn't the realitybefore... the drug war. (gunshots, which continue) search warrant!search warrant! don't move! don't move! don't move! search warrant! search warrant!don't move! that's on him. yeah. the moneyand the dope.

now you see police and most often they look like soldiers: they're dressed in black, they have jackboots high-caliber arms and they don't walk the street and get to know the community, right? they drive around in cruisers that look they belong on the battle field day and night: that's the difference between the greenville police department's new swat truck compared to the old one.

the truck has a lot of bells and whistles: from the simple storage compartments, to the gunports on the side. they're actually proud to say they did not use any taxpayer money. we paid for it with seized funds it came out of money we hadseized from drug dealers... that's where respect is lost. the officers on the street have lost it; the institutionitself has lost it. you're not being seen as anything but the other-

people warring on us. (v.o.) the war on drugs has had a puzzling effect on how society seeks to police itself. with hundreds of thousands of marijuana arrests annually, a new issue emerges: once you start gathering a large group of prisoners, where do you put them all? well, private prison is as scary as all shit and they're scary as hell for a very simple reason: they make it highly profitableto incarcerate people.

we've lost track of how ridiculous some of thethings we do are. so we're gonna give peoplea profit motive in putting more people in jail? gee, i wonder what's gonna happen... corrections corporation of america is the hilton of the private prison industry: a multi-billion dollar business that's getting rich off punishment.

the more people locked up behind bars and the longer they stay there the more money cca makes. last year the company banked a reported 1.7 billion dollars. when you have a privatizedprison, there's a contract between the state and the prison that the state has to maintain a certain occupancy rate in the prison. meaning that the state guarantees

that the prison will stayanywhere from 80 to 100% full crime could go down, it doesn't matter. the taxpayers are still on the hook and the governmentis still on the hook for filling up your prisons. well, where do you get these numbers from? the easiest way to make surethat the quotas are full in these private prisons is toget the low hanging fruit which is just the drug useras a criminal

rather than someone who mightneed a bit of medical help. and that means that every fourth person in the world in jail is a citizen of the"land of the free." you just become a commodity,rather than a human being, churned through the system to make money for these big corporations. if we go on down this path, we'll see more and more laws being invented and created to justify the

imprisonment of more andmore people. public money will ironically be plunged into pursuading us that that is right . each state is constantly arguing about the fact that they don't have enough money for for their public education, but then at the same time,they'll take state funds-or in a lot of cases, federal money- and put it into the prison system.

this is carl holton schooland it's been closed for some time now andin it's place will rise a hospital prison with over 1700 beds. california, since 1980, we've built 23 prisons, we've hired 14,000 prison guards and we've fired 5000 teachers. west virginia is strappedfor money, but we're building another prison here.got to! a lot of people getting arrested here.

most states are just likemine of california: the largest, strongest political lobby group in our state is - theprison guards' union. you have unions that are lobbying to make sure that certain drugs stay illegalregardless of of how safe they are, to makesure that prisons are filled because prisons extract money from the system. it's insanity! it's not rational orlogical; it's... financial.

money is the backdrop to everything. you can't even run from it; i try tosee other things or put other perspectives on it, but it always boils down to money. we've even seen, in places like pennsylvania, where judges have gone and faced high federal sentences for actually streamlining children into these private facilities. a former juvenile court judgein pennsylvania could face

more than 10 years in prisonafter being convicted in a kids for cash scheme.prosecutors say he used children as pawns-lockingthem up unjustly in a plot to get rich. (woman's voice) remember my son? an all-star wrestler! he's gone, he shot himself in the heart! you scumbag, you ruined my fucking life! and what could be more harmful to one's self than

being sent to prison? no effect of the drugcan be possibly as harmful as doing jail time for consuming it. and they end up with a criminal record what does that do to them? they could lose their job; in some parts of the world,they will lose their housing. they will lose theright to education this is a fucking kid who just got arrested recently for having marijuana on him. they put him in jail

and he had an extreme food allergy. he asked them if there was any milk in any of their products, they wouldn't answer him, theygave him food, he ate it and he fucking died in jail. how... criminal is that? what they've made illegalisn't the problem, alright? the problem is the policy itself this business about drug offenses; i mean it's time we stopped locking up peoplefor possession of marijuana.

it selects people that it puts in jail, so we see widely disparate penaltiesamong socioeconomic groups among racial groups. white people and black peoplein this country do drugs at the same rate so they should be arrested at the same rate, but the reality is, of course that's not remotely true. across the nation, blacks are arrested at fourtimes the rate of whites. now, in some placeslike minneapolis,

washington, d.c., iowa, it's eight times the rate. so, why in the world wouldyou be arresting black americans at eight times the rate-or even nation-wide at four times rate-of whites? they're using it at the samerate! you have no excuse! if you are a young black man walking around the streets of london today, you are nine times more likely to be stopped and searched on suspicion of carrying drugs.

i have risen through classes,so i know -you know what i mean-the difference. growin' up in pittsburgh, just being on the streets, if i got caught with some weed, they're gonna look at me me as i'm selling someweed or i'm trying to get some weed to one of their kidsi look like a threat but when i started rapping andstarted associating myself with other people, startedgetting money: they'll be like, 'oh he's notdangerous, he can smoke.'

the war on drugs is one ofthose issues that highlights very clearly that there is onelaw for the rich and powerful and one law forthe rest of us. hsbc is a giant bank that actually laundered money for the mexican drug cartels.billions of dollars! nobody went to jail. naturally, if there is abig bank that is laundering money for drugcartels, they should face a federal prosecution and criminal charges but that's

not what happened. they got afine of 1.9 billion dollars! well, what's a fine tohsbc? it's pocket change; it's one of the costs of doing business. and nobody goes to jail and a mother of four is arrested for $30 worth of pot and she's put in jail for ten years. there's a simple difference:the people at hscbc are in the elite, the woman withthe $30 worth of pot is not. every animal that's ever had a hierarchical social structure

going all the way back to lizards, lobsters and puppy dogs-has built that structure on prohibition and there's always been a chicken at the bottom the pecking orderand the one on the bottom of the pecking order ends upin a miserable god awful, picked-on, pecked-on state and that isn't mankind'ssocial invention that is mother nature's socialinvention. does that mean mean it's good? hell no. andit's our job to reverse it,

natural or not. empathy is all it really takes to open up the avenues of outrage and realize howappalling this is let's remember something boys and girls: jails are there for people who hit us over the head when we're walking downthe street, jails are there for people who break into ourhomes and loot the place. jails are there for peoplewho do genuine harm

so i have no rightto put them in jail for having a different lifestylethan mine. in fact, if i were to do that, itwould be criminal. (v.o.) and yet, the war on marijuana continues on. only now with new medical discoveries. you might ask yourself, 'what possible health benefits could an illegal plant have?' the answer is starting to become more clear. it begins with something that each and every

one of us has: it's something called the endocannabinoid system. we think of marijuana as this violent, unnatural intrusion on human biology. it's not. we are built with all kindsof receptors for cannabis. cannabis mimics endogenouschemicals that we already produce in the body calledendocannabinoids. that's why we have receptors that pretty well fit cannabis.

cannabinoids are these twenty-carbon molecules that we produce, the plant produces there's over a hundred of them in the plant and these two systems worktogether to regulate cell, cluster cell, and intracellular functions. all the cannabinoids do is help cells function. they don't care what the cell does they don't care if its contracting, secreting thyroid synthesizing this, remodeling bone, doesn't matter.

just, they're doing something and they do it a little more effectively. western medicine has neverseen a substance like this we like single drug/ single function, and you come along with a molecule that mayhave an interface inside of every cell and help it function more effectively and, really, it's a hard one to imagine. i can't find any real legitimate doctor that thinks smoking marijuana is good foranybody. sure it may

relieve pain temporarily,but a fifth of jack daniels might do the same thing,and nobody's calling that medicine right? people who say there is no established medical use of marijuana simply don'tknow what they're talkin' about. it's so versatile. it seems every day when i open up the news, there's another report on cannabinoids having some type of medical utility.

control of muscle spasticity,multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, colitis nausea, pain migraine headaches. there are hundreds of reasons that people find marijuana useful. that's why i look so good after 41 years in the game. it is the most non-toxicmedicine i have everencountered. once it's free of the prohibition tariff,

it's gonna be much less expensive than the pharmaceutical products which it will replace. think of a strain as a little chemistry lab an organic chemistry lab because what's happening is mother nature is creatingher own cannabinoid profile. for instance you could smoke a variety or use a variety that would help you with your headache or i could use a variety that might help me with my back pain. if an aids patient comes inand they're having problems

eating, or they can'tsleep-okay, you can't eat, you can't sleep, you knowfor sure the indica is gonna put you down, it'sgonna relax you 100%, it's gonna give you appetiteand you don't wanna give him a sativa; becauseyou give him a sativa, he's gonna be up thinkingall night so it's about genes;it is about this kind of character of plant can do this, and this kind of plant can do that.

it's very important to keep these gene marks- these originalones-it could be the medicine that we need. what is a land race? a landrace is basically a species of marijuana that'sindigenous to an area and has been growing there for hundreds of years in a certain area. cannabis is from all overthe world, so we have afghan varieties, indian varieties

in colombia you have thefamous santa marta punta roja in central africa, you'll havethe malawi gold. when i started this whole new series on strain hunting it was to show the world how much people depend on marijuana around the world. we estimate that probably around two to three hundred million people's families are depending on this crop. it's still a drug in most countries so

the police takes it, or it's expensive, so robbers will steal it and these are areas where the un or other big international ngo's like unesco never will come. in these very remote areasthere are a lot of very nice land races and wewould like to preserve these land races for the future so we try to obtain them and find them and bring them back. we have new varieties that we can play with to see

if they will have any benefit for the future- medicinal or recreational. it's like getting a new athlete on your team that you can cross-breed and create a new variety of marijuana. in recent years, understanding of medical marijuana's diversity has become universally widespread news. with a greater knowledge of strains has come new new discoveries. these discoveries are leading us to

medical benefits we never could have imagined. jayden is seven years old now jayden was born perfectly healthy. at four months old, jayden had his first seizure. it was just a downhill road from there for the next few years. he was having 500 twitching, myoclonic seizures a day; he'd have grand mals for an hour, hour and a half. i remember he was crying from 1 o'clock at night

till 9 in the morning-screaming and crying in pain. he was seeing things, he was hallucinating from the medications. at four and a half, jaydenwas taking 22 pills a day he was at 25,000 pills he had taken by the time he was 5 years old. jayden had tried twelve different medications, we had 40 ambulance bills, we were fighting with the insurance company all the time. we lost our house,

we lost our cars, we lostour business we lost our family. i went to ucsf, i said,'look, i don't think jayden's gonna make it another week. what do you suggest?' they're all, 'i don't know, imean, i would try anything.' i go, 'what do you thinkabout medical marijuana?' they're all, 'well, like we said, we think we're in a life and death situation- you should try anything.' so i said alright, i went and picked up something

i saw in a dispensary, andcame home, i gave it to jayden- after four and a halfyears of having myoclonic seizures (500 a day), andtwitching and head drops and seizing-the first day i gave it to him was- thank god one million times-was the first day he's ever went seizure free in his life. then after that: secondday, third day, fourth day, the seizures were down dramatically; i could see his eyes lighting up.

it was summertime- it was june 1st the firstday i gave it to him 2011. he started swimming; jayden's never been able to swim before-the sudden temperature change of water would give him a seizure i put him in the front yardand my neighbor's like, oh my gosh, we've never seenhim in the front yard.' they were so excited they were cheering him on... i started weaning him off the medications after

one month i was on the cbd. every time i took him off, he'd suffer for two weeks and boom: he'd become more human. then take off another pill, suffer for two weeks, boom: become more human. jayden started chewing. jayden was only eating gerber food... always till he was five yearsold. he started chewing. with taking 25,000 pills, it really wears on your body

and brain, so it was kinda recovering more from the medication than from the epilepsy. and we decided to wean off the hardest one: benzodiazepines. he was having tremors, nightmares, brain zaps; i've contacted 30 different benzo withdrawal clinics, they go, 'how oldis the person that you want to bringinto our clinic?' i tell them, 'sevenyears old' and they scream

at the top of their lungs -every single one vividly say the same exact thing: 'you have a sevenyear old on benzos? 'cause we have people herethat are football players, we have people here that arebig, tough guys that are dying,literally dying, from benzos and you have aseven year old on it? i said, 'seven year old?i go, 'my son's been addicted to itsince he was 16 months old.'

so now we have to figure out a way to wean him off by ourselves because the benzo detox clinics are not are not willing to take in a seven year old. since we've been using thecbd's, he's been doing amazing. it has under 1% thc,so it doesn't give you that euphoria. second thing: it's abstracted, it's organic, we know the dosage in milligrams. we're on the forefront of something huge:

it's either you're gonna give up, and just and let your son, your child, be a vegetable and die or you're gonna sit there and fight. i still haven't met jayden yet. i know jayden and 22 pills,but i'm down to jayden and two pills-that's whoi know right now. i don't know jayden but on medication. christmas before jayden was born-that was my christmas gift: that jayden was gonna be born.

my ex-wife had given me a box and i opened it and i remember... this is ahard one... i remember openingthe box and seeing a pregnancy test sayingpositive with two baby shoes and having so much expectation,you know? having so much expectationthat you're gonna have a son. as a parent, you're expecting your child to play football, you're expecting your child to talk you know?

i mean, right now, mynumber one goal right now is to have myson say i love you. i mean people take that for granted. people take that for grantedthat their kids can talk and say i love you. that's all i want to hear my son say, but i mean if i can hear him say that, i'll be more than happy. he said it one time on cnn: i la loo. he was really close! i gotta hear it. if he says that,

i've already conquered the world. seeing your child suffer: there's nothing worse than that; there's no tortureworse than that. especially every day. now is not the time to senda message to our young people that marijuana is medicine. it is not. it is a dangerous,illegal drug. is it legitimate for anyhuman on the face of

planet earth to deny anotherhuman the thing that will remove him from that infinite torture chamber? no. it is not acceptable. it is utterly and completely im-moral. i'm not allowed to do this because someone says i can't. and that person never met me, they're never likely to meet me... they're never likely to meet someone with ms,

parkinson's, cancer-and yet they can have total rule over that entity's life. this is pretty muchthe only time that i'm gonna be lostfor words. i just - the justifications still notbeen explained to me. should marijuana be legalized for medical use? aren't there issues ofsignificance that you'd like to talk about? the economy,the economy, the economy, the growth of jobs, the needto put people back to work

the challenges of iran?we've got enormous issues that we face. but you wanna talk-go ahead-you wanna talk about medical marijuana i think marijuana should notbe legal in this country i believe it's a gateway drug... marijuana is still aschedule i drug meaning legally that it has no medicalusefulness whatsoever and benzodiazepines like valium and xanax and klonopin

are are actually schedule iv drugs even though they put put significantly more people in the emergency room every year and causeeven more deaths than many schedule i drugs. many attempts have been madeto move cannabis out of of schedule iand ...they always fail. how can the united statesgovernment claim that there's no medical usefulness tocannabis while then patenting the medical usefulness of cannabis?

it was a shocking idea thatthe federal government- the department of healthand human services had a patent on cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants, heart disease and diabetes, alzheimer's and huntington's, and includes cataracts and down's syndrome as well asneoplasia. it really speaks to the depth of the problem in terms of who's making these decisions and who are they benefitting? we need to get to the truth which is that

prescription drugs kill vast numbers of people. prescription drugs have ahigher rate of overdose than even things we think of as being horrific like methamphetamine, heroin... the number of people who are killed by heroin and cocaine is tiny, tiny, justminiscule, microscopic by comparison with the number of people who are killed every year by prescriptiondrugs. let's look at the facts; let's not listento the bullshit anymore.

suspected drug overdoses are rising at an alarming rate in haywood county. and it's not illegal drugsofficials are worried about but prescription drugs. it's being described as anepidemic. authorities say too many young people aredying accidental deaths. the fifth or sixth top selling drugs in north america are antipsychotics which we're giving out like candy now to people,including children.

at vancouver's children's hospital they've had to establish a special clinic just to deal with the effects of antipsychotics in kids. i recently lost my father two years ago and we were really close and so it was like having the rug pulled out from underneath me and i started to see a therapist and a psychiatrist because i was experiencing these panic attacks and at leastfifteen medications i was written, you know,

within two minutes of meeting,one of the psychiatrists she called me bipolar ii andwrote a diagnosis of it without even knowing me,you know? what i really needed was a fuckin' hug. in 2010, doctors prescribedenough painkillers to give 45 milligram percocetsand 24 5-milligram vicodins to every personin the united states. it's a huge industry creating pills for us to take. most of the time, they're not really anything that's

curing you, they're justsuppressing whatever your ailment is and in some cases making it worse. in depressed patients, worsening of depression including risk of suicide may occur. sometimes fatal events including infections tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers blisters, peeling rashes, hives or mouth sores nervous system and blood disorders and allergic reactions have occurred.

the makers of oxycontin have marketed it as a non- or less-addictiveopiate, knowing already that this wasn't true. theysimply suppressed that research. hundreds of overdose deaths. they plea-bargained and they agreed to pay fines. well, they could pay that out of their left hippocket. nobody went to jail, nobody suffered any criminal consequences. if you read the small print,you'll find that there's side-effects to certain drugs but you've got to really

get your microscope out. i see this all the time withfriends-even with peers- where they carry a diagnosisand they can't pronounce it. they don't know what the disease they have is called. they take drugs and they don't know what the medication is or what it could potentially do to their body. all kinda pills andmedicine and bullshit that they can't pronounce; makin' money off your ass. fuckin' you up with more medicine than you need.

there's people strung out on those pills, man. chief medical examiner glenn wagner says he's noticed a big rise in the quantity of different drugs people are taking. this shopping bag represents one individual and the number of drugs that that person had onboard. there are 19 separate lineson this one and it goes for several pages. people don't look at them as drugs anymore when

they're legal-when they're over the counter. they just look at it as somethin' you can buy from the store and put in your body, butit's still a drug. unintentional deaths fromprescription drugs: one dies -one american dies-every 19 minutes. nothing comparable in marijuana. is that correct? correct. well, when you've got adrug that costs a billion dollars to bring to market, your investment is so

huge that you have to do everything in your power to make sure that drug succeeds and sometimes the things that you do are troubling. there are some pharmaceuticalproducts today that are in short demand because theprofit margin isn't big enough just how tough is it tofind the flu shot, jocelyn? sonia, darren, you'll have tomake a couple of calls, and those that do have itonly have a limited supply. i mean, this happens every yearwhen there's a bad flu

and there's shortages of vaccines, right, because there's not really a big profit motive tied to flu vaccines it's a single dose and you move on. unlike something like viagra or especially things like cholesterol medication, heart medication -maintenance medications that people who are ill have to stay on in order to live normal lives. if you don't need thatmedication, you don't need them they take a dent in thepockets, you know what i mean;

those are very deep pockets andthey don't want 'em dented. so every night on tv you seea weird-ass drug commercial tryin' to get you hookedon some legal shit and they just keep namingsymptoms till they get one that you've fucking got! got athlete's foot? are ya hot? are ya cold? whatcha got? you want this pill huh, motherfucker? ya gotto take this pill! prescription drugs being advertised and marketed on television is certainly something that's happened

in my lifetimeas a physician. they're saying things like'ask your doctor if this drug is right for you.' ask your doctor if humira can work for you... ask your doctor if lunesta is right for you. ask your doctor about cymbalta. do you get a weird pain inyour bowel? well then you need to go to a doctor andyou need to tell him that this is the drug you need. so hurry up! there's your

check, there's my prescription, it's a transaction. i'm not a drug addict! howdare you? i'm a patient. in every other industrializedwestern country, you don't see ads for drugs. you go to your doctor, you tell your doctor what you're dealing with, they're well- informed about the drugs that are on the market and they make a recommendation for you. i remember these commercials and they looked so happy and i remember thinking, oh my god, there's a pill that

you can take to make yourself happy? like how fucking awesomewould that be? if you got somebody makin' a commercial sayin', oh, do you have these problems, do you have these problems? you're gonna relate to itlike, oh yeah, that is me! maybe i do need that. it's really frustrating to methat as a society we don't know better at this point.they're telling you

that you can take this medicine, but risk literally killing yourself to do it! for me, it reinforces ourcultural belief that if you go to a doctor, if you don't get a prescription, you haven't really had a valid encounter. one study by a british medical journal found that for every dollar that pharmaceutical companies spent on r and d -research & development- they spend 19 dollars on promotion and marketing of their drugs.

if i go to my doctor and i say,'i saw this ad for this drug; i really would liketo try it,' and he says, 'yeah, let's give ita shot,' is he my doctor, or is he my drug dealer? they form groups like partnership for adrug free america where they get theirfucking money from prescription drugs! i wish you didn'tsmoke weed.

you're not the same when yousmoke, and i miss my friend. i had a joke about it like:prescription drugs making commercials against weed is like hookers making commercials againststrippers, i mean that's... (it would of been better ifi didn't stumble through the word commercial),but that's what it is! guess what. all of the big drug companies have used corruption in north americafor at least 50 years. if you were a doctor, they will come to you and say,

i will pay you to participate in a conference on the phone-it will only take a half an hour of your time. well, guess what the conference is. it is a drug company salesman selling you on the latest drug to influence you to prescribe that drug the next time a patient comes into youroffice. how are you gonna feel? you feel gratitudeand your gratitude influences your decisions. nothing should influence your decision but what isbest for a patient.

there are pros to having a capitalist endeavor there may be drugs on the market that never would have been available because that profit motive wasn't pushing these pharmaceutical companies to try and develop those new drugs. the problem is that it's it's not really a freemarket: there's, like, a small percentage of pharmaceuticalcompanies that are really propped up by our congresspeople because they have huge lobbies supporting them.

i recently received a notification of the top 100 pharmaceutical drugs and how much they made a year and you see exactly what allthe frenzy is about. in 2012, the top-11 global drug companies made nearly 85 billion dollars in net profits. just an ungodly amount of money for medicines that many of which my patients have been able to stop with something that can grow in their backyard. now, look, i was in bed for fifteen years with an

extremely serious illness.i believe in the importance of the major drug companies. does that mean i believe in their right to pushresearch that they've paid for into peer-reviewed journalsand to prevent research that tends to indicate thattheir drugs don't work? there's a case to be made for these pharmaceuticals there's the appropriate use of all kinds of medications including antidepressants, including antipsychotics, but it's hard to make a rational case for the use

to the extent that they're employed in today's society. so, once more, we're faced with the arbitrariness of what we consider to be acceptable and what is unacceptable. (v.o.) this seems to be information that society could benefit from. but how has this vital knowledge managed to fly under radars for so long?

why are these issues not making their way to the forefront of concern in our news? so a lot of people make the mistake of thinking that the news stations are gonna cover things in the order of importance, but in reality they cover them in the order of ratings. so if justin bieber is gonna give you the best ratings, they're gonna go first. congressman, let me interruptyou just for a moment.

we've got some breakingnews out of miami-stand by if you will. right now, in miami, justin bieber has has been arrested on a number of charges you gotta sell whatever it isthat wants to advertise on your show and if yourshow is getting shitty ratings, they're gonna replace you with a chick with big tits hey, starting the news off tonight: a motherfucker killed three people. we got my guy hal fishman standing outsideright now. hal, what's going on?

'yeah, the niggashot three people' and blah, blah, blah.that's more attractive! yeah, i don't watch the news;the news is fuckin' depressing. they pick the worst shitto follow for a long-ass amount of time you think they give a fuck if barack obama was born in kenya? they do if it's a good story. because it means that two million people are gonna tune in instead of 600,000.

then you get peoplecoming out saying, 'well, what aboutnuclear bombs? that's a good point! we'llbe back after this.' they're gonna be able to sell advertisement for x-amount of money instead of w. that kinda shit happens everyday all day it's just a matter of whichone do they want to put the most attention on? there's skydiving cats!

♪ i believe i can fly..♪ in all that froth, i think serious debate around key policy issuesoften gets lost. that's the problem with current affairs! you forget about what's important and you allow the agenda to be decided by superficial information. everybody cares aboutthe advertisers. they care atremendous amount. if you're gonna do a storythat affects the advertisers,

you will get a call frommanagement. now, it doesn't mean you can't do the storyalthough there is heavy pressure to shift priorities within the story. it's fucking ridiculous! puttin' makeup on and pretending they're not reading off a script that's corporate approved. they have a very specific set of parameters that they're supposed to fall into. it's ok, you can admit it ifyou've bought an item or two or ten for yourself

two or maybe... ten for yourself... two or ten for yourself. originally, when tv firststarted, news was seen as something that was a public service so that you informed the american people. the deal was: you give us news and we give you the public airwaves and then at some point alongthe lines, the tv stations forgot that they weren't supposed to make money off the news and then a secondthing kicked in that's

really important: they realized whenever they did investigative reporting, they would uncover something that the government was doing wrong and it'd be a giant hassle. you're supposed to question authority as a journalist. that's the whole pointof the media. if you don't questionauthority, then what the hell is the point? cnn just got rid of its investigative team. when i was at msnbc, ilooked for an investigative

reporter to do some of the stories that i wanted to cover and they said, 'there isn't one in the building.' so i got this amazing speech from the head of the network whosaid, 'look, outsiders are really cool: they wear leather jackets and they ride motorcycles,' he said,'but, we're insiders here at nbc; we're part of theestablishment and you have to act like it.' he was telling me that he had just gone to washington and they were not happy with my tone.

do you think all these corporations and rich folks are spending money on politicsbecause it's not good for business? no! obviouslythey think it's a great investment for them. i was challenging the republicans and the democrats too much. how about if we didn't go into that dumbass war in iraq and waste a trillion dollars when we found zero weapons of mass destruction. you flushed

that down the toilet! we're talking socialsecurity not your politics! and now you're talking aboutrobbing people's socialsecurity! that isoutrageous! not your contempt foramerica, we're talking about social security.stick to the topic! contempt for america? you lost 4400 americanlives in iraq! you have contempt for america! i remember taking several guests to task

saying all of our politicians are systematically corrupt. they get legalized bribes which we call donations. we've forgot- tten that they're in essence just bribes. who's gonnagive you money for nothing? no one right? they're gonnagive you money so that you do them a favor. every time i would point that out there'd again be a callfrom management like, 'hey, we're not saying you can'tdo that. on the other hand if you'd like to keepthe six o'clock slot...'

but in that one meetingthat i had with the head of of the network,it was no longer implicit. it was explicit and he said, 'this is the realityand you either get back in line or we go in adifferent direction.' if anything, i went harder after the establishment after that. the banks: they sucked so much money out of the system that we had one ofthe largest economic crashes

of all time and they'renot even done yet! and then, a couple months later, they called me in and they're like, 'apparently you didn't get it!' so, you were at six o'clock;we're moving you from six o'clock to theweekends; we're gonna pay youa ton of money so hush up' and i said thanks but no thanks i didn't take the weekend job and i went back to do the young turks online.

we have three branches of government, and those three branches aresupposed to be part of the checks and balancesthat make the government work. the media and journalists are a huge part of that. i mean, you think americans arecomplacent now? they'll be even more complacent if they're not given the information they need to be politically active. drama works on television now, in the world ofpolitics, the soap opera is

democrats versus republicans. it's not who's right in terms of the policies or ideology. what is easy is: he said this, she said that; isn't that amazing? look at the democrats and republicans, they're always fighting...oh no, look at this:the republicans are fighting amongst themselves. catfights sell. which is why you have the red team and the blue team, you know, all over the world it's red team-blue team and they have these rigid ideologies that are

associated with these teams and they just run with it find a place where you aresurrounded by like-minded people and the best way to find those people is you should probably look at themaps on how counties voted. we think it's a bunch of ideas about how the world works and how we can make it better. sorry, that's not really what it is. ideas are a badge of identity they're a badge of identityfor a subculture. it's my group versus your group and i will make damn

sure that my representative represents my badge of identity, my group's supposed ideas, the ones that represent my group's uniform not your group's uniform. and there's a lot of seeminglyintelligent people that have ridiculous ideasthat are cleverly worded in a nice flowingand confident way that makes you think that whatthey're saying makes sense. a lot of work gets done ontobacco whereas drugs are pretty much specificallyjust to get high.

it's not, i'm enjoying- but a lot of people drinkto get high... yeah, but that's more ofa subsidiary point. people are not openly discussing anything, they're just defending pointsof view and in defending points of view, they're defending their egos. which means they're expressing the ideas that they think others want to hear. whichmeans they're not thinking! so, you can present the facts to people, but the facts

won't penetrate becauseit's not about facts, it's about opinions they haveto hold onto in order to feel okayabout themselves. potheads that i knew atthat time, when i see 'em: 'hey man, hey bro, hey what'sthat? what's going on?' every one of 'em are braindead! it's fact. everyone that i know in mylong history of life, everyone that was a pot smoker,their brains are defuncitated! fox news, as we've known for a long time,

does republican propaganda.unfortunately, msnbc has now come to largely dodemocratic propaganda. cnn does propaganda for both;they say, 'the republicans said this and the democrats said that. now, what's the truth? who cares? my job is just to tell you what the latest catfight is. it creates this partisandivision in the country where people feel like, 'ihave to root for my team regardless ofwhat they do.'

(v.o.) it's sometimes hard to see contradictions that find their way into politics. inconsistencies with politicians tend to get lost in a mass amount of information that now finds its way to our attention. in some cases, these contradictions sit right in front of our face. when you look at the obamawebsite where they were looking for information-whatis important to you,

what do want to see us do? i have to say that therewas one question that was voted on that ranked fairlyhigh and that was whether legalizingmarijuana would improve the economy and job creation and, uh, i don't know what this says aboutthe online audience and he goes, 'ha ha, i don'tknow what that says about this group.' what it says about this group is: they like pot! why don't you explain to me what's

wrong with the idea that people want you to make it so that someone doesn't get locked in a fucking cage for a forbidden plant? yeah, i did it, i got awaywith it, too bad you're not. so move on to the nextquestion. look at how many of us they're locking up. there's nothing funny about it now, think about how mentalthat is: the last three presidents, at least, confirmed that they in fact

did smoke marijuana. so,shouldn't they be in jail? i mean they've admitted it,right? obama apparently rather enjoyed it. it makes him the him the hippresident! 'i'm the cool president, i'm the happeningest president i say weed, i say blow, it'sall a big deal ha ha ha!' huge laugh from the collegestudents and if he had done time in prison,time in federal prison, time for his weedand a little blow,

he would not be president ofthe united states of america. this is his quote from2008: 'i'm not going to be using justice department resources to try to circumvent state laws onthis issue.' well, bullshit, that'sexactly what he's been doing. he has launched the most vicious attack on medical marijuana patients and dispensaries that pales bush by comparison. he's raided me. the deahas been in this house.

one of the reasons we are making these announcements today is to try to put torest the notion that large marijuana businesses can shelter themselves under state law andoperate without fear of federalenforcement. in a report issued in june 2013 it was found that the dea had performed 270 medical marijuana raids under barack obama in the first four and a half years of his presidency. this wasmore than all 12 years combined

before he took office. the obama administrationoutspent the bush administration by 100 million dollars in about half the time. people get freaked out when you say that. 'but obama is hope and change! he's a democrat; he's a good guy! you can'tsay that about obama! he had a choice... he coulda done as his campaign promised and said, hey, you know what? we're not gonna do the dispensary

raids anymore. if you have made medicinal marijuana in your legal state, we're gonna respect that.' that's what he said during the campaign. but when he goes to act, what did he do? he put the most right-wingerthat they had in the dea, who was left over from the bush years, as the head of the dea. now, why wouldyou do that? you could have picked anybody but youpicked the biggest right-winger in the department.

why? and this iswhat people can't understand about obama: he's a politician just like the rest of them so he thinks, 'if i can curry a little bit of favor by putting this right-winger in, well, i will seem so moderate and that will increase my chances of winning in 2012 by maybe half a percent. president george w. bush, who pretty much has acknowledged while he was young and irresponsible and a playboy, he used cocaine

and then when he was governor of texas signed legislationmandating anyone that uses cocainemust go to jail a minimum of 180 days. that's beyond hypocrisy. when asked about drugs, he said, 'i don't want to answer the marijuanaquestion. you know why? i don't want young kids doing what i did.' (chuckling)

likewise, i mean when you look at interviews that have been done with bill clinton after he left office,he openly admitted that he thinks that marijuanashould be decriminalized and it's like, oh, well if only you were in a position to do something about that! i wouldn't pretend that iknow what pulls a president's strings, but i do knowthere's a stark contrast between the way every president behaves before

they get into office and then once they get into office. the general public shouldhold politicians accountable for saying one thing when they're not in power and doing another when they come into power. there's a sort of rhetoricaltrick they quite often use to say, 'oh, this is something i did in the past, it's something i regret, i wouldn't advise anyone else to do it.' so, they somehow distance themselves from their own person.

and the public puts up with that hypocrisy they get it when you pointit out to them, but i don't know why they put up with it. so it may be that president x or president y has smoked cannabis at some point in their lives or used other illegal drugs, but when they get to the top they are going to oppressothers for using illegal drugs. that's an idea that never would have crossed the mind of any of our founding fathers. if anyone had stood up

at a constitutional convention and said hey! let's ban alcohol,' that idea wouldn't have gotten very far and itwouldn't have gotten very far not because they were abunch of drunks, but because the idea that the federal government had that degree of power over sovereign individuals was anathema to what they were trying to createin forming a new country. that's why it's essentialto make decisions in public wherever possible, based onthe actual evidence that

there is for something. how else are you going make policy? are you going to base it on some sort of faith? or a wish that something will happen just because you want it to? what are you going to do? stand and sort of scream on the spot until you get your way like a small child? and that's effectively whatsome of our politicians seem to be doing. for six months, i worked as a policy advisor at the

highest levels of the britishcivil service, working to advisethe most senior people on the issues of drugs and crime and the aim of thatwas to get an academic in there to help give them some evidence that they could base theirpolicies on, but i found that that was actually quitea difficult job to do. those civil servants told me that they had learnt that it was not helpful to use evidence which

challenges the dominant way of thinking that's already structuring most policies. it's much easier to take evidence that supports what you're already doing and use that to justify the continuation of your existing policy. one of the leading figuresin research in drugs and policy is professor david nutt. he was the government advisor for the acmd.

the acmd is the advisorycouncil on the misuse of drugs. we had created a 16-point scale of harms and then we took twenty drugs and weranked all those drugs on these sixteen different harms, and then when we put all that together intothis computer program called multi-criteria decision analysis, we discovered that the most harmful drug overall was alcohol. it showed that the drug laws, which ignore the most harmful drug (alcohol), were actually based on a wrong

understanding of harms. politicians wanted to get some kind of political advantage by being hard on cannabis and our study said, 'well hang on, cannabis is much, much less harmful than alcohol.' i thought i was going to be encouraged to tell the scientific truth and then suddenly one afternoon, i got a phone callsaying effectively, 'you've gotta resign'and i said, 'why?'

and he said, 'because you'regiving mixed messages; we've gotta havea line: cannabis is bad, alcohol is good. when wesay we want you to resign it means you're sacked' and so i was sacked. professor's nutt's dismissal came after he dared to suggest drugs like cannabis and ecstasy are less harmful than alcohol and tobacco. it was a very interesting experience because, here, you've spend ten years of your life doing what you

know is right and what you know-if that was accepted by government, by policy- makers-would be better for society and then for simple political reasons, you get humiliatedpublically. after an angry exchange on sky news yesterday, alan johnson reiterated his argument in a letter to the guardian today: 'professor nutt was not sacked for his views, which i respect but disagree with. he was asked to go

because he cannot be both a government adviser and campaigner against government policy. but it kind of backfired on thegovernment because his sacking attracted an enormous amount of media attention. suddenly the debate wasn't just about whether this expert committee had gotit right about drugs, it was a whole debateabout the role of science in policy-making. (v.o.) this brings us to an interesting question:

if evidence doesn't play the role we think it does in policy-making, then what does? turns out there's this thing called lobbying. and just what is lobbying? lobbying is supposed to be simply getting access to the politicians and making your case. so, the american peoplecan lobby just as much as aspecial interest could. it's supposed to work like that, and the politician

then ponders it and says, 'oh, well, you've both made an interesting case, but i'm going to go with this side or that side.' now, that's not whatit is at all, okay? the reality of what it has become is: two sides come in with two checks-whoever has the larger check wins. that's lobbying in a nutshell. so, if it's defense contractors,or private prisons, or whoever it might be that'sgiving money for that issue

-they're gonna win! they're not gonna win some of the time; they're gonna win all of the time. i think bill hicks said it best. bill hicks said, 'this is my impression of american politics.' he goes-it's a guy holding twopuppets-and people go, 'well the puppet on theright is more to my liking, well i feel like the puppeton the left suits my beliefs like, hey, wait a minute:it's one guy and he's holding both puppets!

once corporations were allowed to spend money in politics, theyowned politics. corporations are people, myfriend. we could raise taxes -of course they are-everything corporations earn ultimately goes to people.where do you think it goes? you give me money, i do you favors-everybody got used to it. now the mediadoesn't even blink; they think, 'well if you're goodat raising money, that must mean you're a goodpolitician.' now, what does

that have to do with servingthe people? do you know that, 95% of the time, the person with more money wins the congressional election at the national stage? it doesn't matter if you'reliberal or conservative, the main thing that matters is do you have more money? so, for the 2012 elections,they spent six billion dollars on all the national elections. they spent a billion for the obama campaign, a billion for the romney campaign

and four billion for all the senate and congressional elections. it's large donors and they're not spending six billiondollars for their health. they're spendingthe six billion dollars to get back 12 billion or 60 billion i got a campaign. i needmoney. who's got money? that woman with four kidsselling $31 worth of marijuana,

she's got no money,but that banker, that wall street guy, that corporation guy- hey, i think they have a fewbucks to spread around. it actually becomes anundercurrent to every single legislative action that wesee. everybody's concerned about re-election; everybody's concerned about how to sell themselves, not to their constituents, but to the lobbying and to the interest groups. it fucks up the framework and the groundwork for the

world that we operate in. (v.o.) so where does this leave society when those who are elected to represent the public no longer have the motivation to do so? how can balance be re-achieved? what else can alter the framework of the world around us? if you think in terms of our communication environment, the advent of the 'net represented a tremendous inflection point.

before that, thesources of information that we had werepretty much institutionally structured that very strong filter is breaking down and that's giving people around the world the chance to think for themselves i have a real bug aboutthis: nobody respects books anymore; books going outthe window and everyone's reading on these bloodyscreens. it's just so easy to

google stuff. everyone'sjust like, 'oh, let's check google' no! it's a real,like, big bug there for me; it really annoys me. where do you get most of your news from today? i think, the internetactually! suddenly, it's a different world. the folk that control big media now no longercontrol the whole of that media environment. we're not reliant, say,in england,

on the daily telegraphs and the fear that politicians have over two or three publications. blogs have become the media;there really is a public debate. this is like the public forumof athens or rome. it's the freedom to do what you want. can't nobody tell you what you can and can't do on the internet. you can do what the hell youwanna do when you wanna do it. you may connect with somebody in another country who may have some information that'd really enlighten the world.

because we don't know it all in america: we only know half the story. i was, youknow, close-minded i was just thinking about california and the lifestyle i grew up in. in alice in wonderland, it said something like this: 'how do i know what i think until i hear what i have to say?' on the internet you can actually express yourself out loud; you can add a new dimension to thinking and for the first time,if you have an opinion,

you can go out there and express it, and if you have the ability to promote it, you can get attention for it. post it and before you know it, a million people could be following you, talkin' with you, respectin' your views. or they could betalkin' bad about your views. all of a sudden, issues that would not have been discussed before are being discussed. there's these little communities based on ideas

and thoughts that are building and those ideas turn into other ideas and other programming and it's weird if you were to look at it on achart or on a graph. in terms of the war on drugs, the internet has been phenomenal. there was a great thirstfor the truth and so anytime that truth leaked out on the internet people would just jump on it. 'oh, marijuana has medicinal benefits? oh, wow, richard nixon already had the report

that said marijuana wasn't bad for you?' they jump on it andthey think, 'thank god there's now something thatlet's me access the truth! i was online in '94. that'swhen i first got online, but it didn't really do anything it was sorta like puttin' around and no one knew what was going on. you've got mail! everyone i know is on it! email!

instant messages! there's no better way to keep in touch you've got mail. now with 56k, connections are faster than ever! it's fast! if you have a phone line,you can go online what will they thinkof next? and the mail was allbullshit, and then slowly but but surely it became this interacting monster

that it is today. anything that you need to know about marijuana, you can just go onthere and look. you can have your mindchanged instantly. in the old days, when there was twenty hippies sitting around trying to legalize marijuana with with their little flyers, there was no way to fact check any of it. it sounded like a crazy hippie. wait, you're telling me marijuana is safe and it

helps you with headaches and anxiety and all these important medical things that we're taking all these pills for? yeah right, old hippie. but nowadays, thesehippies are online and they have proofand facts and for once we're like, 'wow,that's not a crazy hippie, that's a smart hippie.' you know, i can pick thisphone up, and within 10 seconds, i can google any complex question that would've

required a serious education to answer before. it's become so commonplace,that we don't realize how fucking completely insaneit is! it's a culture- changing reality shift. people like me, who had to read about things in an encyclopedia, and actuallygo to a library, and take out books on things. i'm a fuckin' dinosaur. the young kids that are comin' up today-from the jump, have had the internet; they don't know

what the world is like without the internet. the internet is beginning toshake things up in politics but the old momentum isclinging stubbornly, irritatingly anddisturbingly. with the recent nsa leak,i think that you see a very specific example ofpoliticians trying to destroy freedom of expression and freedom of speech. collecting data on people and spying on people is a form of intimidation. if you know that the government

is watching what you're doing, and you know that the government is monitoring what you are saying and what you're advocating for, you are less likely to be politically active. you are more likely to be intimidated by power. they're usingthat as a way to tell us toshut the fuck up. the west fought for 500 years to acquire these basic rights and just to hand them away thoughtlessly means that we have to fight again for hundreds of years

just to get them back. it'svery hard to acquire basic human rights; it's very easyto give them up. the establishment is scared to death of the internet because that's the onething they can't control. so they've figured out a way tocontrol our politicians through donations, they'vefigured out how to control tv through the advertising,but the internet is the wild, wild west and they can't grab it. no matter how much they try to plug all the holes in, the truth seems

to get out one way or another anyway. it's basically the whole world sharing with one another and the one thing that we're sharing, that's really doing them damage, is the truth. the trend, if you payattention to it, clearly is the dissolving of boundariesbetween people and ideas and information and it's all going to come to a head. the first cracks in the monolith of prohibition have already happened. suddenly you have washington

and colorado actually succeeding in passing these legalization andregulation ballots and becoming the firstjurisdictions anywhere in the world to do so. what's happening in the united states is that the entire underpinnings of thewar on drugs are being pulled away by the population of the united states itself. washington state and colorado that make it legal-legal, they're like,

'look, man, it's fuckin' legal here. period. it's not "medically legal"-it's legal' and the dea is like, 'woah, you better not!' like, whaddya mean, we'd better not? come on, what is our fucking voting system for if a piece of legislation thatthe people want gets up there and you're still goingout of your way not to recognize it? how could you ask people to believe in the process

if you won't respect the vote? you can't ask people to vote-they won't want to. that's all that's gonna haveto happen to tear it all apart: is more states just saying, 'you know what? we're gonna legalize.' they become a force that can stand up to the status quo it's then you start to takewhat is yours instead of waiting for thecorporations and the government to give youwhat they think you deserve.

one by one, individual statesare defying the federal government and responding to the wishes of their their own immediate populationand changing the state law. once we see that gainingpace in the united states, it's gonna gain pace in thewhole of the rest of the world as well. the international narcoticscontrol board has made it clear that washington and colorado are in breach of the un drug conventions, they're effectively breaking

international law and that theu.s. is, by dint of what's happening in washington andcolorado, also in breach of the un conventions. given that the un drug treaties were very much driven by the u.s. in the first instance, it does put them in this rather odd situation where something that they drovethe formation of, they are now being disciplined and condemned for violating. because how can they imposethese appallingly damaging

laws and conventions across the other countries of the planet when they're legal- izing in their own backyard? i think it makes it verydifficult for the united states to try to hold othercountries in line. uruguay: they are experimenting with a completely new approach and that is for the state to be selling marijuana in marijuana shopsthroughout uruguay. all across europe, in australia,and in fact, all over the world, the whole house of cards

is already coming crumbling down. i mean even by the time youput this documentary on air, i'm sure that there are going to be more states that have voted with their feet and changed the legal status of cannabis. big step today for thosehoping to legalize recreational marijuanain alaska. the campaign to regulatemarijuana turned in more than 45 000 signaturesto the lieutenant governor.

i mean it's impossible to keepup right now when it comes to research, political development. constant stream of books and documentaries, podcasts and blog posts. theinformation's just overwhelming they just can't stop releasing shit. just like you can't stop making documentaries about it, just like i can't stop talking about it on stage or on a podcast. what's weird is: in ten yearsfrom now,

you're gonna lookat this film and be like, 'that's ridiculous. rememberwhen they had to make films about legalizing marijuana?' and it's one of the reasons why the age of information that we exist in today is so fuckin' important. it's so important because it's never been in the hands of the people before and this is what happened: in the hands of the people you've seen more progress in ten years than we have

in two fuckin' hundred years before. because it's swarming, all the greedy pigs are trying to hold on to it,but it's like standing in the middle of the river andtrying to catch all the salmon with your hands. you're notgoing to. the world is already moving; we're already on it like we want it. they doing it in seattle, washington. recreational. you know i'mon my way out there as soon as i get off this tvscreen. recreational work.

establishment figures, they're beginning to get the message; they're realizing that it isn't in their interests any longer todemonize cannabis. it does not make sense, from aprioritization point of view, for us to focus onrecreational drug users in a state that has already saidthat under state law, 'that's legal.' when you see a broad social change taking place in society and you realize that you are behind the curve

-then, you pretty soon get it that you have to catchup with the curve. it seems like they are fallingunder the weight of all this. they just go wherethe wind blows in order to stay alive. i don't think it matters why people jump ship as long as they dojump ship. in 2009, you wrote a timemagazine article entitled why i would vote no on pot.you've changed your mind.

i have and as part of mythinking recently, i've apologized for some ofthe earlier reporting because i think we've beenterribly and systematically misled in this countryfor some time and i did part ofthat misleading. there's a shift taking place in our culture. the issue is once again on the table. will the forces backing marijuana deregulation overplay their hand in some way that allows the forces of incarceration

to get a jump on them? the war on marijuana is a symptom of something that is fundamentally wrong in this country. we have to break out of the fog because the media won't do anything no president is gonna come in and change things. it comes from the bottom upnot from the top down. so, you can have minor little victories, but that's tinkering. 50 years of documentation says it's not working and what do we do tomorrow?

the same damn thing. the truth is not repeating what everybody around you automatically says. it is not repeating what everybody is gonna pat you on the head for saying. it is looking for thethings that people will not patyou on the head for saying because those are the things that people really need to know, and once you are damn convinced of something of that sort, then it's your obligation

to go out on a limb for it. that's truth. we have to figure out, a, that we are temporary and we are the people that have to pass down this fucking incredibly fuckedup mess to our children and unless we operate this worldwith the idea of sustainability for the culture, sustainability for the community, sustainability for humanity in general, you're gonna have resentment at every turn.

you have people profiting and people failing and people being victimized, but the reason whywe are so complex is also the reason that i think that we have hope. (v.o.) eight years and 2 films later, we once again arrive left with more questions than answers. where do we go from here? how do we move forward without taking two steps back? and, again, sits that ever- lingering question

that we just can't seem to shake: will marijuana everfully be legalized? um, probably yes... oh yes, oh yes. i've no doubt about it. marijuana prohibition is azombie; it is a walking corpse. it could be decades, buthistorically, it's a blip. i think marijuana will be fully legalized and taxed in my lifetime. whether we'll ever get singapore doing it, we'll see.

globally? i can see iran doing it, can't you? instead of goin' one city,one state at a time. make that shit legaleverywhere and pop the topand let's go! i think it's just aroundthe corner, but you know, i've always thought that!i've been wrong up to now, so i'm probably wrong now!i don't know. i doubt it seriously. i believethat the forces controlling the way things work in theunited states will give us

lots of process before we everget to total legalization. i can die with thesatisfaction of knowing it's inevitable now. they're never gonna get the cat back in that bag again. he's out... and what we see now is this culture struggling to make an accommodation for this new kid on the block. there'll come a point when this will probably end but if it's not today, then somebody will be locked up

today, somebody's lifewill be ruined today and that somebody is probably hundreds of people. to begin to demonstrate an understanding of humanity is so counter to our way of thinking- it's throw away the key, let's lock 'em up. and you believe it, up untilyour son or your daughter or your friends or yourself getscaught up in the same nightmare and then you're going 'ohmy god, now i understand,' but do you?